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Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

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Matt Zimmerman <mdz@ubuntu.com> writes:

> On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 09:17:46AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
>> In your first mail you wrote about "mass-mail Debian maintainers" in the
>> second mail you turned my request to file wishlist bug reports against
>> single packages into "mass-filing bugs in the BTS".
> If all of the patches were to be filed in the BTS, automation would be the
> only feasible way to do it.  It has been said that it is too much of a
> burden for Debian maintainers to process the patches, and Ubuntu currently
> has a miniscule number of developers compared to Debian.

Given the length of time it takes to make and test a change to a
package, it doesn't take much effort to run 'diff -urN' and fire a
mail at the Debian maintainer or run reportbug.  We're talking
minutes for each diff.

Just as an example, there have been a number of patches to my
gimp-print package made by ubuntu over the last year, mostly trivial.
If they had been filed as wishlist bugs, they would have been
reviewed, applied and uploaded within a week (or whenever I next
intended to uploaded), rather than being sat on for eight months.
Digging through the ubuntu patch collection to find them shouldn't
have been necessary.

Martin Pitt did mail me the last changes he made: they were applied an
uploaded within two days.

My point is simply that I personally would like to see ubuntu patches
filed directly as wishlist bugs against my packages, and wouldn't
consider it mass bug filing (they are mostly separate issues, to be
dealt with separately).  The worst I can do is disagree with the
change and close it, but the norm would be reviewing and applying the
patch ASAP.


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