Re: Linux Core Consortium

[Goswin von Brederlow <brederlo@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de>]

Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> writes:

> * Goswin von Brederlow 
>
> | Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> writes:
> | 
> | > * Brian Nelson 
> | >
> | > | Anyone, developer or non-developer, can help fix toolchain problems.
> | > | However, the only people who can work on the testing-security
> | > | autobuilders are ... the security team and the ftp-masters?  What's
> | > | that, a handful of people?  With a bottleneck like that, isn't that a
> | > | much more important issue?
> | >
> | > The problem is not the autobuilder infrastructure per se.  It is that
> | > testing and unstable are largely in sync (!).  This, combinded with the
> | > fact that testing must not have versions newer than unstable (they
> | > will then be rejected) means testing-security wouldn't work at the
> | > moment.
> | 
> | How is that different from testing-proposed-updates?
>
> t-p-u is not uploaded from another host through a mapping.  (Remember,
> uploads to stable are mapped to stable-security on
> security.debian.org, then uploaded to stable from that host.  The
> .changes file however, does not list stable-security, it only lists
> stable.  And the trivial fix, to drop the mapping won't help either,
> since then any DD could upload to stable by uploading to
> stable-security, and we don't want that.)
>
> Also, AIUI, t-p-u will mostly be used when there's a newer version in
> unstable and you can't get the version in unstable in (because of
> dependencies) or you have to get a fix in immediately, in which case
> you upload to "unstable testing-proposed-updates", so you don't hit
> the version skew issue.

Which is exactly what you have with security. There is a newer version
in unstable than what you upload.

The problem seems to be more in rejecting unauthorized uploads to
testing-security than a version problem.

> | And why is testing-proposed-updates infrastructure still lacking 2
> | buildds?
>
> I don't know.
>
> -- 
> Tollef Fog Heen                                                        ,''`.
> UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are      : :' :

Thanks for the update.

MfG
        Goswin