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Re: -= PROPOSAL =- Release sarge with amd64

Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org> writes:

> On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:06:49 -0700, Adam McKenna <adam@flounder.net> said: 
>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 06:04:44PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>>> Ingo Juergensmann <ij@2004.bluespice.org> wrote:
>>> >Nobody forced you to take over a job - but if you take over a
>>> >task, you should be able to get forced to do something that is
>>> >part of your job.
>>> You can't force anyone to do anything in Debian. If they fail to
>>> live up to their responsibilities, you can petition the DPL to
>>> change them.  Whoever they're replaced with still can't be forced
>>> to do anything.
>>> I think you fail to understand the concept of "volunteer".
>> I think a lot of people in debian misunderstand the concept of
>> 'volunteer', including and especially yourself.
>> To volunteer means to give one's services voluntarily and free of
>> charge.  That's ALL it means.
>> It doesn't imply that the volunteer can pick and choose what he
>> feels like doing.  He needs to do the job that he agreed to do.  If
>> he doesn't have the time to perform 100% of the job tasks, he still
>> 'owns' the tasks and should be responsible for delegating them to
>> other volunteers and making sure they get done.  If he doesn't, he
>> is a failure, and should either step down or be replaced.
>> You and others who are advocating this alternate definition of
>> 'volunteer' should really stop it.  You are damaging the project
>> when you enable failed volunteers to justify their actions.
> 	This displays a profound misunderstanding of what being a DD
>  and an office holder in Debian implies (which is surprising, seeing
>  that you are a DD).
> 	Yes, I volunteered to do a job, to the best of my ability,
>  and in the best manner that I can determine. I shall do the job the
>  best way I see, and not jump when other people tell me to do
>  something else. You can't force me to work against my best judgement.
> 	I don't give a shit if you pass a GR. I am still going to do
>  what I signed up to do the best way I can do it.
> 	manoj

If a vaild GR (or ctte or dpl decision for that matter) is held and
turns out against you there is not much you can do. You either back
down and follow the decision or you resign. If you just ignore it you
are violating the constitution and social contract you said you would
uphold and then you should be removed from the role in which you
violate it [which would be sad indeed].

Thats how groups work. Sometimes you have to compromise or the group
has to split.


PS: I greatly value the work you have done but I don't like this "I'm
above the law' kind attitude.

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