Re: Spam in the lists out of control
On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 04:50:13PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
> On Wed, 12 May 2004, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > and it's often not even possible to find out exactly where you're
> > blacklisted this time without contacting the admin (which, of
> > course, isn't possible since you're blacklisted).
> Hmm, I wonder if you really know how a blacklist usually operates.
> If your mail is rejected because of a blacklist, the rejection message
> usually tells you the list in which you are.
I've seen admins who refused to accept() a port 25 connection from one
server, but that did work from another. Don't ask me why, the admin
refused to cooperate even if I called him (which happened to be
possible that one time, the guy lived in Paris). I've seen mailservers
who say "you're not wanted here, sod off", without giving a reason,
right after connecting. Both, to me, look quite like people using some
That's why I said "it's often not even possible to find out exactly
where you're blacklisted this time without contacting the admin".
> If you want to see your status before sending a message, there are
> URLs like this one:
> which allow you to do a general search.
Yeah, well. Don't expect me to look up whether I'm blacklisted right
before I'm about to send a mail out...
> In either case you don't want to be out of *every* blacklist, you just
> need to be out of the lists actually used by the people you want to
> communicate. The more used a list is, the more interesting it
> will be for you to be out of it.
Actually, I don't care. As I said, if people don't want to talk to me,
well, tough. I won't jump through hoops for the privilege of talking to
some random stranger.
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