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Re: [Proposal] Debconf4 in Brazil



On Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 08:48:52PM -0300, Carlos Laviola wrote:
> Hello, folks,
> 
> As Michelle Ribeiro announced in -project[0] but hasn't garnered much
> attention from the community, we thought it would be better to repost
> this revised version of our proposal here.  We're looking forward for
> your comments on this idea.
> 
> Thank you,
> The Brazilian Debconf4 Committee
> 
> -snip-
> 
> Hello,
> 
> As some of you may have already heard, the Debian community in Brazil would be
> pleased to host the next Debconf in Porto Alegre, Brazil.

I'm very interested and I intent to go to Porto Alegre for Debconf4 if
it's organized there.

> As Mako mentioned, Brazil has been extremely active in the Free Software
> movement but very unrepresented at the past Debian conferences. The Real
> (Brazilian currency) is weak compared to USD and EUR which makes coming to
> Brazil from these places affordable but going from Brazil to Europe or North
> America extremely difficult.
> 
> There already is a good deal of planning to host the conference some days
> before or after the Fórum Internacional de Software Livre (International
> Free Software Forum)[1], so that Debian developers can join us in this event as
> well.

Last FISL was from Thu 5 to Sat 7 June 2003, so I guess it will happen
again from Thu 3 to Sat 5 June 2004.

If FISL occurs during the second week in July 2004 and Debconf4 during
the following week, it will coincide with the school holidays in
Australia and Europe and (I guess) more people will start making plans
to go to FISL2004 and Debconf4.

When are the school holidays in Mexico, Canada and the US?

> It's likely that DDs can give a talk at FISL and get some sponsorship that way
> as well. I already know that the Forum is interested in bringing Bruce Perens,
> for instance.

IMO, it will be more effective to help DDs from other countries in
America (America != US) like Argentina, Colombia, Chile, etc. With the
same amount of money, you could bring more DDs from neighboring
countries to Porto Alegre than from Europe, Canada or Australia.  

Also, DDs from neighboring countries have the same currency problems
that you have described above and it's really expensive for them to
travel overseas.

> We already have full support from the Porto Alegre data processing company
> (Procempa) and the City Hall (through its International Relations department).
> They will provide us with free (or low-cost) food and free acommodations.

Who will provide internet access? Will you organize a debcamp (bug
squash fest) as well?

A debcamp may get some people interested to go to Porto Alegre.

What sort of free acommodation are you offering?

> With regard to flight prices, we've made some research and have some figures:
> 
> Amsterdam - Porto Alegre - Amsterdam: 772.00 EUR
> Frankfurt - Porto Alegre - Frankfurt: 855.00 EUR
> London - Porto Alegre - London: 647.00 GBP
> Madrid - Porto Alegre - Madrid: 998.00 EUR
> Milan - Porto Alegre - Milan: 817.00 EUR
> Paris - Porto Alegre - Paris: 641.00 EUR
> Toronto - Porto Alegre - Toronto: 1960.00 CAD
> Oslo - Porto Alegre - Oslo (conn. in Paris): 8220 NOK = USD 1148.00
> NY - Porto Alegre - NY: 750.00 USD
> Seattle - Porto Alegre - Seattle: 830.00 USD
> 
> To give a basic idea about what prices in Brazil are like:
> 
> Newspaper                        0.50 USD
> 1l milk                          0.50 USD
> 1.5l soft drink (coke, etc)      0.70 USD
> Big Mac (#1 Combo)               3.00 USD
> City Bus                         0.50 USD
> A Brazilian soccer t-shirt      20.00 USD
> A (really) great dinner         10.00 USD
> An average dinner                5.50 USD
> Movie theater                    4.50 USD
> 
> We already have an active mailing list to discuss our plans. That has been
> going on since Debconf3: debconf4@listas.cipsga.org.br. 

I couldn't find the mail list archive at listas.cipsga.org.br.

> Please, feel free to join us. 
> 
> 0. http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2003/debian-project-200308/msg00007.html
> 1. http://www.softwarelivre.org/forum2003/fotos_evento/
> 2. Generic info about Porto Alegre:
> http://www.uoregon.edu/~sergiok/brasil/portoalegre.html
> 3. Some Porto Alegre photos:
> 
> Culture House
> http://www.riogrande.com.br/turismo/capital10.htm
> 
> Public Market
> http://www.riogrande.com.br/turismo/fotos_mercado_publico.htm
> 
> Gasometro usine
> http://www.riogrande.com.br/turismo/capital11.htm
> 
> Please let us know what you think and join us at
> debconf4@listas.cipsga.org.br.
> 
> -- 
> Carlos Laviola   < claviola@debian.org >
> Debian GNU/Linux <http://www.debian.org>

Kind regards,

Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
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