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Re: suggestion: DFDG - Debian Free Documentation Guidelines

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 09:53:41AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> As was noted the last time this came up, the prior expectations of

Who is "we", white man?

> It serves very little purpose to insist that we treat apples like oranges;
> true, they're both fruit, and they're both easily spoiled if not taken care
> of properly, but you'll get a bad taste in your mouth if you just bite into
> an orange.

Your analogy is only valid if you can establish that we don't need the
same freedoms in documentation shipped in Debian main that we need for
software shipped in Debian main.

As far as I can tell, this has not been clearly demonstrated.  People
have made lots of proposals to reduce the amount of freedom our users
have to manipulate documentation in Debian main, but I have yet to see
an argument that isn't equivalent to, "well, it would be better for our
users if we could ship Microsoft Word in main."

Even if Microsoft Word were freely distributable (but still
unmodifiable), we wouldn't allow it into main.  Why should we apply a
different standard to documentation?  "Documentation isn't software" is
not an answer.  We ship all sorts of things in main that aren't software
by one definition or another; many of them aren't documentation either.

Do we need a separate set of guidelines for every different kind of
thing that might go into Debian main?  Debian Free Music Guidelines?
Debian Free Image Guidelines?  Debian Free Game Level Map Guidelines?
Debian Free Random Number Generator Seed Guidelines?

If so, we'd better call up Eray Ozkural so he can help us define a set
of exhaustive and non-overlapping categories that will defined all the
different sorts of stuff that we might want to put in main.  We can then
go about drafting a set of "freedom guidelines" for each.

G. Branden Robinson                |
Debian GNU/Linux                   |       "Bother," said Pooh, as he was
branden@debian.org                 |       assimilated by the Borg.
http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |

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