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Re: Bug#150551: ITP: wmcoincoin -- Stupid dockapp for browsing DaCode sites news and board

On 21-Jun-02, 01:22 (CDT), Moshe Zadka <m@moshez.org> wrote: 
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Joseph Carter <knghtbrd@bluecherry.net> wrote:
> > bzip2 was packaged because someone thought it would be a useful thing to
> > have in Debian.  And it is, lots of people use it.  We're not trying to
> > keep useful things out of the distribution.  However, I'm not convinced
> > this thing is actually useful for any real purpose.
> You mean, "useful for you"?

As Joseph said, stop trolling. Assuming everyone who disagrees with you
is a selfish idiot is less than productive. Many of us are quite able
to distinguish between "useful for a variety of people" and "useful for
me". I don't have any use at all for the umpteen IRC clients in the
archive, or, for that matter, KDE. But I understand that many people
do find them useful, and I certainly don't object to their presence,
although I might wonder a little about the need for an additional IRC
client. :-) Or, as Havoc writes in the metacity FAQ: "I'm guessing Red
Hat would not consider "insufficient number of window managers for
Linux" an urgent problem."

Yes, choice is good. But there's no requirement that every single piece
of software have Debian package, and no requirement that every Debian
package be in the main archive -- it's trivial to setup an apt-getable
site. If your target audience is small, that may be the best choice.

> If you're worried about the Packages.gz file, you could easily create
> a "sub-distribution".

And you could easily set up an alternative apt-get site for packages
with small audiences.

> Personally, anything which can make the "apt-get install <foo>" advice even
> truer than it is (which means both higher quality and more packages) is
> good.

"More" is not necessarily better. "More" is often simply confusing.
Long-term, archive size is going to cause us to lose mirrors. Now, does
it better serve us to have a package in the archive so that 10 people
can "apt-get foo" w/o adjusting their sources.list, or to keep a mirror
that serves 1000 users?

Now, I'm not saying that Debian should institute limits. But I would ask
that maintainers apply just a little judgement to what they package and
what they place in the Debian archive.


Steve Greenland

    The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating
    system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the
    world.       -- seen on the net

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