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Re: hurd does NOT need /hurd

On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 03:43:50PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Anthony Towns <aj@azure.humbug.org.au> writes:
> > Firewalling tools are provided with the Debian system.
> > Firewalling tools are not available for Debian GNU/Hurd.
> > Debian GNU/Hurd will not be released until they are available.
> I think that it is foolish to insist on this.  Router firewalling
> tools, for example, are not necessary unless the Hurd has router
> forwarding capacity

Then provide host firewalling tools. I'm sure the Hurd can act as a host.

> --which it does not, and is such a low priority we might never have it.

Then you might never release. *shrug*

> Similarly, we might have a totally different way of getting whatever
> security benefits accrue to host-based firewalling.  I have no idea!

If you have a totally different way of getting those security benefits,
then that counts as "firewalling tools" and this is a null issue. Since
you've got no idea, I suspect you don't have such a way though.

Note that, following Linux's precedent, there's no need to have your first
implementation by elegant. You can rip it out entirely when you think of
a better way to do it, and have all the userspace tools breaks, and just
provide a kludgy script to replace it, and people won't particularly mind.


Anthony Towns <aj@humbug.org.au> <http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/>
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