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Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 04:54, Martin Schulze wrote:
> > To the best of my knowledge, no. But I didn't have time to learn how and
> > do it, and Lindows.com decided that they wanted to pay one of their
> > engineers to do it. It's quite simple: nobody else did it, so I took
> > Lindows.com up on their offer.
> This is rather unfair, since nobody asked for this type of help.

Actually, I asked for help with specifically this. Nobody actually did
anything except for Lindows.com.
> I know that there are several people in our project who do speak PHP,
> which would be a proper language to do so, it's also enabled on auric,
> klecker and pandora.  If that's not good enough, there's still perl
> and python run through /cgi-bin/ just like it is on master.  We also
> have databases in use on several hosts.

Yep - and I _could have_ spent the time to do it with PHP or perl or
whatever, too. The fact is, these people didn't step up, and I didn't
have the time, and Lindows.com just did it. What am I going to say to
them: "I know you have spent time and effort on this, but just on
general pragmatic reasons I'm going to refuse you. By the way, can we
have some more money?"

Yes, we're Debian. Yes, we're dedicated to Free Software. No, nobody
else did anything for this. No, I didn't have time to waste. Yes, I care
about Free Software: but Yes, I care a lot more about getting the job
done. If having this done on a free software platform was so vitally
important (as it appears now), it seems to me that someone would have
stepped forward in this entire discussion to say "Here's a working
alternative" or even "I would have done it if I were asked." Nobody has.
Nobody's even suggested they might have done it.

Frankly, this is tiring me out. In reference to nobody in particular, if
all we're going to do is flame on about Free vs proprietary software for
the rest of this thread, let's just drop it.

Joe Drew <hoserhead@woot.net> <drew@debian.org>

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