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Re: It's Huntin' Season

On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 05:48:58PM +0000, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 11:58:13PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 12:55:58PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> > > * Anthony Towns <aj@azure.humbug.org.au> [20020130 20:23]:
> > > > Putting blocks in the way of improving Debian is the exact *opposite*
> > > > of what we're all here for.
> > > I wasn't trying to block him from improving Debian but from mass filing
> > > serious bugs on packages which might have been fixed already.  We've
> > > seen too many mass filings which didn't improve Debian at all; rather,
> > > they blocked maintainers from doing their work.
> > > If he checks the versions, I'm of course happy with this.
> > Then help him do so. Don't just find problems, find solutions too.
> Knee-jerk reactions to people pointing out problems don't help
> either. Don't reject problems just because they don't have solutions
> attached. (And then we wonder why so often people complain about
> things but don't file bugs...)

I'm not sure what relevance you think this has. There was a reason I
posted some code to make it fairly easy to work out which packages can
have bugs filed on them based on the out-of-date lintian reports.

Not attaching solutions in some cases is just a fact of life, sometimes
it's much harder to find the solution than to define the problem. In
this case, it's absolutely trivial to find the solution, and there's
hence no excuse for not just going ahead and doing it so we can get on
with our lives, and not have to worry about it anymore.

For reference, the rest of the solution is:

	ssh auric
		zcat /org/ftp.debian.org/ftp/dists/sid/main/source/Sources.gz |
		    awk '/^Package: / {P=$2} /^Version: / {print P, $2}' | 
		    sort > real_vers.txt

	scp master:~/lintian_vers.txt .
	scp auric:~/real_vers.txt .

	comm -12 lintian_vers.txt real_vers.txt >usepkgs.txt
	comm -23 lintian_vers.txt real_vers.txt >excludepkgs.txt

If you really, truly want to improve things for users, worry more about
coding solutions to problems than bickering on -devel. Seriously.


Anthony Towns <aj@humbug.org.au> <http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/>
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The daffodils are coming. Are you?
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