Re: debian-devel-digest Digest V101 #309
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>debian-devel-digest Digest Volume 101 : Issue 309
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>Today's Topics:
> Re: Conditional packages [ tb@becket.net (Thomas Bushnell, BSG ]
> Re: XFree: "could not open default f [ Richard Braakman <dark@xs4all.nl> ]
> HPPA assistance [ "Jeremy T. Bouse" <jbouse@debian.or ]
> Re: DEBNAME or DEBFULLNAME? [ Andreas Rottmann <a.rottmann@gmx.at ]
> Re: [The good, the bad and] The Ugly [ David Schleef <ds@schleef.org> ]
> Re: [The good, the bad and] The Ugly [ Gergely Nagy <algernon@debian.org> ]
> Re: [The good, the bad and] The Ugly [ Julian Gilbey <J.D.Gilbey@qmul.ac.u ]
> =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?W7GksO1dIKHaILrOt [ =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?x9G8rrrA?= <han@ ]
> Bug#124248: ITP: camstream - collect [ Noel Koethe <noel@debian.org> ]
> Re: [The good, the bad and] The Ugly [ Gergely Nagy <algernon@bonehunter.r ]
> Re: [The good, the bad and] The Ugly [ John Hasler <john@dhh.gt.org> ]
> Re: DEBNAME or DEBFULLNAME? [ Jason Thomas <jason@debian.org> ]
> Re: Usage of usr/X11R6/include/X11/p [ Jochen Voss <jvoss2@web.de> ]
> latest gnome packages not in sid? [ Shaya Potter <spotter@cs.columbia.e ]
> Re: Usage of usr/X11R6/include/X11/p [ Branden Robinson <branden@debian.or ]
> Re: latest gnome packages not in sid [ Matt Zimmerman <mdz@debian.org> ]
> Re: [The good, the bad and] The Ugly [ Mark Brown <broonie@sirena.org.uk> ]
> Re: pre-dependency for fetchmail, fe [ Adam Heath <doogie@debian.org> ]
> Proper way for a i586-pc-linux-gnu ( [ Andrew Hurt <apolhurt@starpower.net ]
> Re: [The good, the bad and] The Ugly [ Glenn McGrath <bug1@optushome.com.a ]
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>Date: 16 Dec 2001 11:32:41 -0800
>From: tb@becket.net (Thomas Bushnell, BSG)
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Conditional packages
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 87ofkz9d0m.fsf@becket.becket.net>
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>Richard Atterer <deb-devel@list.atterer.net> writes:
>> IMHO distributing a debian/ dir with upstream sources is a bad thing.
>> You should not do it even if you are both upstream and the Debian
>> maintainer - one day this may no longer be true, and whoever is your
>> successor as the package maintainer won't like that situation!
>The practice that I use and that is also used for the Hurd is as
>follows; I recommend it to all developers who are also themselves the
>"upstream" maintainers of software, which is itself released
>separately.
>The CVS archive (which is publicly accessible) contains the debian
>directory and is managed like everything else.
>The official released version of the package (to the world) does not
>contain the Debian directory, but the debian directory lives in the
>CVS archive and is easily managed.
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>Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 22:38:00 +0200
>From: Richard Braakman <dark@xs4all.nl>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: XFree: "could not open default font 'fixed'"
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 20011216203800.GA1951@cs140102.pp.htv.fi>
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>This is something I've seen happen when X doesn't agree with glibc about
>the character set.
>For example, I used to have fi_FI as my LC_CTYPE. But according to
>/etc/locale.gen:
>fi_FI ISO-8859-1
>And according to /usr/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias:
>fi_FI: fi_FI.ISO8859-15
>(There is also a fi_FI entry without the colon, but this one overrides it.)
>Setting LC_CTYPE explicitly to fi_FI.ISO8859-1 fixes it for me.
>--
>Richard Braakman
>Will write free software for money.
>See http://www.xs4all.nl/~dark/resume.html
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>Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:44:18 -0800
>From: "Jeremy T. Bouse" <jbouse@debian.org>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: HPPA assistance
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 20011216204418.GA11452@UnderGrid.net>
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> Could I kindly request someone with a lil more experience to try
>and take a look at the buildd.d.o log for fwbuilder and possibly see if
>they can determine if this is a problem with the state of HPPA at this
>time or if it's a problem with source code I need to report upstream...
> Thank you in advance,
> Jeremy
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>Date: 16 Dec 2001 21:52:14 +0100
>From: Andreas Rottmann <a.rottmann@gmx.at>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: DEBNAME or DEBFULLNAME?
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 87itb63n29.fsf@alice.rhinosaur.lan>
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>Gerfried Fuchs <alfie@ist.org> writes:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I recently noticed that different tools use the one or the other
>> environment variable. I personally dislike this inconsistency and guess
>> most of the others out there dislike such things, too.
>>
>> reportbug uses DEBNAME; dh_make, vim debchangelog filetype plugin use
>> DEBFULLNAME and I guess there might be other tools (emacs has something
>> similar but I don't know which one that uses) that use the one or the
>> other. I personally like to try to eliminate those inconsistencies and
>> bug the packages.
>>
>> So, what I'm asking here is: Which tools do you know that use the one
>> or the other environment variable? Which of those two versions do you
>> think is better to be used and/or wider used (so to keep bugreports to a
>> minimum ;).
>>
>dpkg-dev-el (Emacs) uses DEBFULLNAME.
>Andy
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>Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 13:08:32 -0800
>From: David Schleef <ds@schleef.org>
>To: Gergely Nagy <algernon@debian.org>
>Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: [The good, the bad and] The Ugly -- the cosmetic rant
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 20011216130832.A6923@stm.lbl.gov>
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>On Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 07:52:49PM +0100, Gergely Nagy wrote:
>> Quoting from debian/rules:
>>
>> ,----
>> | configure: configure-stamp
>> | configure-stamp:
>> | dh_testdir
>> | # Add here commands to configure the package.
>> | ./configure --prefix=/usr
>> | touch configure-stamp
>> `----
>> ,----
>> | # Build architecture-independent files here.
>> | binary-indep: build install
>> | # We have nothing to do by default.
>> `----
>These both are verbatim from the output of dh_make. You could
>file a bug there, but the maintainer would probably agree with
>me that more comments in debian/rules is better than fewer. You
>could also suggest a rule for lintian that complains about
>dh_make-like constructions in rules, similar to what it does
>for debian/copyright and others. I actually changed the format
>of a perfectly good debian/copyright file to make lintian shut
>up.
>Perhaps the people responsible for these apparently bugless and
>lintian-clean packages are now fixing
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