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Re: I broke it - again.



Hi!

On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 02:52:28PM -0500, An Thi-Nguyen Le wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 09:40:31PM +0200, Michael Moerz typed:
> } unstable is unstable, only experienced people should run UNSTABLE. 
> } experimental is experimental, only hard core people or ill minded people will 
> } take this.
> 
> I fall into the latter category of ill-minded people actually.  :)
> 
I am also rather ill-minded not in the debian way as using experimental, but running pre and test kernels that are patched with a bunch of things ( reiserfs, new process sceduler, sometimes other things too ) is definitly not normal :).
> 
> I'm not saying that asking questions is illegal.  :-/  Nor am I attacking 
> you for answering questions.  My concern was just that the latter criticism 
> of the packaging system didn't apply here because it was a Weird Situation.  
> Stuff doesn't always work out.  On the other hand, version pinning (in the 
> CVS version of apt, I believe) is going to be coming someday, which will 
> probably relieve some headaches.
> 
Ok, I never wanted to criticise the packaging system and if it looked like that it was not intended. My critics were for the shorthanded answere where even I was not able to guess right what was meant. How should someone asking this question be able to figure out the meaning of the short-cutted answere ?

> Very true.  But unstable is *still* unstable, regardless of whether people 
> ignore it or not.  It's a risk.  It's not been thoroughly tested.  While
> an influx of new testers is prolly a good thing, it's not a good thing if 
> they're not prepared for it.  What about RedHat's Rawhide, for instance?
>
Indeed unstable is unstable, I highly agree with you in that point. But I think still that pointing someone asking such simple questions might be pointed out that he *should not* run unstable. Nevertheless he also should be given an fitting answere too. So simply saying something short that is clear only for someone with skills is not good.
> 
> It's OK to ask questions and such.  I would ask a *ton* of questions.
> No one is going to figure out everything on their own.  At the same time 
> it's usually nice and respectful to others if the questioner has done a 
> little bit of research, at least imho.
>
I also agree with you in that point. Everybody should sneek down on docu right when he happens to meet a problem that he doesn't know how to solve. Sometimes things might even be stuck after consulting the docu. Then posting questions is a wise idea.
> 
> You are over-reacting to *one* post.  *ONE* post, made by a relatively 
> ill-informed person.
> 
Yeah, I see what you mean. 
***** calming down phase initiated. ******
( I hold my breath now. )
***** calming donw phase completed. ******
( breathing normal again)
:)
I hope that I am done now with overreation for a month or so.

-- 
kind regards,
Michael Moerz



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