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Re: Qt license change



On Wed, Nov 18, 1998 at 06:09:38PM +0100, luther@maxime.u-strasbg.fr wrote:
> > > i am not entirely sure here, but it seems to me that you can produce a
> > > commercial app with GPL stuff, and sell it. I think with QPL you have to buy
> > > their commercial Qt version to developp apps. Is this DFSG free ? are you sure
> > > of it ? if yes i think this is ok, but as i understood thinks up to now, is
> > > that for a library to be free you also have to have free developpement tools
> > > for it. Also i think that the QPL don't agree with the non discrimination
> > > clause of the DFSG, altough i wish some more informed person would look into
> > > it.
> > 
> > You can charge whatever you feel is reasonable for a GPL app, but nobody
> > paying for it is restricted from giving it away freely.  This isn't all that
> > different from what the Qt license says really, other than that they say the
> > money is for distribution, not as part of a sale.  Different words, same
> > meaning.
> 
> they should say it explicitly then, no need in confussing people.

I was under the impression that it did, or at least RMS has explained it
that way.  The whole point of the GPL is that you can't stop redistribution
no matter what you sell it for.  I can pay $100,000 for a single CD and if
everything is GPL I can put that CD's contents up on the net freely the same
day I receive it, free to anyone to download.

The QPL has that same restriction.


> > > in this case i think the QPL discriminate against people wanting to write
> > > commercial software with Qt.
> > 
> > The GPL does too, and in the same way.
> 
> You just say you can sell GPLed software, so the GPL don't make this
> discrimination.

Yes, but the cost is not for the code, but rather for what you're putting it
on.  The QPL just spells that out.


> and the FSF has said that it consider that you can sell GPLed software, what is
> the position on Troll Tech on this ?
> 
> you have me half convinced here, but still i would prefer a clear position in
> the license, but then this is only a draft ...

You can sell it.  Realize that when you buy a Debian CD it was sold to you. 
You're only paying for the media of course, but the GPL software was sold to
you on that media.  You payed to have the stuff distributed to you, not to
have the right to have the code.  And you can't under the GPL or QPL take
away the ability for someone else to distribute the results as far and wide
as possible should they choose to do it.

-- 
Show me the code or get out of my way.

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