Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@datasync.com> writes:
> Hi,
> >>"Petra," == Petra, Kevin J Poorman <ewigin@SoftHome.net> writes:
>
[...]
> Petra> ... it seems to me to be ... sink or swim .... How about
> Petra> ... Heres a life jacket to get you through the first storm...
>
> You are great at analogies and generalizations, however, some
> specifics would really help. I would say Pikes "The UNIX programming
> Environment" or the LDP's basic books are the life jacket.
I'd say the best life jacket is the 'man' and '(tk)info' commands. What more
can a beginner that really want to learn need? I learnt that way... Sure, it
took me a long time, but now everything (almost any way :) is more or less
subconcuius.
> If you think that is not enough, I am sure people would be
> grateful for patches / concrete suggestions.
>
> Petra> Oh, yeah now theres a good idea....
>
> >> We are indeed striving for ease of use, and for a geater
> >> degree of assistance in configuration of complex software.
>
> Petra> Examples? ... apt and?
>
> kernel-package. bindconfig. sendmailconfig. postinst scripts
> that set up complex packages. dwww. menu. the boot floppies
> package. http://localhost/doc/.
>
>
> >> Actually, I think you have no idea of what you are talking
> >> about.
>
> Petra> well, your entitled to that opinion.
>
> Until you give me any specifics, I have nothing to change my
> opinion.
>
> >> You are somewhat like the management, who pick up nice, big
> >> sounding ideas all the time, but really have not thought through the
> >> nitty gritty dirty details.
>
> Petra> Oh, what a nice thought... a way out for you.... Come on. please try
> Petra> harder.
>
> Me try harder? What about you putting some substance to your
> accusations? How about you putting together *one* technical proposal?
> How about you putting together a single policy amendment? How about
> you doing anything but somplain in this forum?
>
> Failing that, how about pointing out one single specific
> improvement we can make? (Something more specific that we should use
> a GUI to set things up or that we should be user friendly)
>
>
> Petra> did I say that? ... or did you make that up. I think you made
> Petra> that up, because you assume that everyone who doesn't see it
> Petra> your way, must NEED and WANT a gui. all I'm saying is that a
> Petra> life jacket would be good for our users...
>
> In other words, you do not even think a GUI is what we need,
> you want another mindless platitude. "A life Jacket", indeed.
>
> >> What bugs? I find the GPL to work exactly as it should. We
> >> need a strong license that ptomotes and actively propogates free
> >> software, and the GPL does that.
>
> Petra> while I haven't memorised the entire gpl, what I have read leves me to
> Petra> think that there are a fewq "bugs" in it.
>
> Again, when asked for specifics, you balk. I think you are
> merely trolling.
>
>
> >> I personally am against the certification prtograms, since in
> >> my experience none of them so far have been worth anything
> >> much.
>
> Petra> sounds like you couldn't pass one anyway.... well with your
> Petra> reading skills and all.
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