Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@datasync.com> writes: > Hi, > >>"Petra," == Petra, Kevin J Poorman <ewigin@SoftHome.net> writes: > [...] > Petra> ... it seems to me to be ... sink or swim .... How about > Petra> ... Heres a life jacket to get you through the first storm... > > You are great at analogies and generalizations, however, some > specifics would really help. I would say Pikes "The UNIX programming > Environment" or the LDP's basic books are the life jacket. I'd say the best life jacket is the 'man' and '(tk)info' commands. What more can a beginner that really want to learn need? I learnt that way... Sure, it took me a long time, but now everything (almost any way :) is more or less subconcuius. > If you think that is not enough, I am sure people would be > grateful for patches / concrete suggestions. > > Petra> Oh, yeah now theres a good idea.... > > >> We are indeed striving for ease of use, and for a geater > >> degree of assistance in configuration of complex software. > > Petra> Examples? ... apt and? > > kernel-package. bindconfig. sendmailconfig. postinst scripts > that set up complex packages. dwww. menu. the boot floppies > package. http://localhost/doc/. > > > >> Actually, I think you have no idea of what you are talking > >> about. > > Petra> well, your entitled to that opinion. > > Until you give me any specifics, I have nothing to change my > opinion. > > >> You are somewhat like the management, who pick up nice, big > >> sounding ideas all the time, but really have not thought through the > >> nitty gritty dirty details. > > Petra> Oh, what a nice thought... a way out for you.... Come on. please try > Petra> harder. > > Me try harder? What about you putting some substance to your > accusations? How about you putting together *one* technical proposal? > How about you putting together a single policy amendment? How about > you doing anything but somplain in this forum? > > Failing that, how about pointing out one single specific > improvement we can make? (Something more specific that we should use > a GUI to set things up or that we should be user friendly) > > > Petra> did I say that? ... or did you make that up. I think you made > Petra> that up, because you assume that everyone who doesn't see it > Petra> your way, must NEED and WANT a gui. all I'm saying is that a > Petra> life jacket would be good for our users... > > In other words, you do not even think a GUI is what we need, > you want another mindless platitude. "A life Jacket", indeed. > > >> What bugs? I find the GPL to work exactly as it should. We > >> need a strong license that ptomotes and actively propogates free > >> software, and the GPL does that. > > Petra> while I haven't memorised the entire gpl, what I have read leves me to > Petra> think that there are a fewq "bugs" in it. > > Again, when asked for specifics, you balk. I think you are > merely trolling. > > > >> I personally am against the certification prtograms, since in > >> my experience none of them so far have been worth anything > >> much. > > Petra> sounds like you couldn't pass one anyway.... well with your > Petra> reading skills and all. [...] (a looooong list of lines, not longer relevant deleted) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Turbo __ _ Debian GNU Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just ^^^^^ / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ selective about who its friends are / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / papadoc.nocrew.org _ /// / /__| | | | | |_| |> < Turbo Fredriksson turbo@tripnet.se \\\/ \____/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ PGP#788CD1A9 www5.tripnet.se/~turbo ------- PGP: B7 92 93 0E 06 94 D6 22 98 1F 0B 5B FE 33 A1 0B --------- -- nuclear Ft. Bragg smuggle colonel Delta Force World Trade Center Treasury quiche security Ortega arrangements cracking BATF CIA strategic
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