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Re: Unteralterbach visual novel


On 03/10/2014 02:44, Bas Wijnen wrote:
> The erotic content is not optional, AFAICS.  Only the abuse is optional.
> The first time you get to a point where you can see it, you have to
> click a button that says "I'm mentally ill and want to see this".  Given
> that these are (drawn) images of child abuse, I think they are actually
> criminal to possess in many countries (including mine, the Netherlands,
> so I have already deleted the game).  I'm pretty sure we cannot
> distribute them in Debian, not even in non-free.  So for the rest of the
> post, I'm assuming that those images are not in the game.

Do these laws actually apply to comic-style illustrations?

(Note: I have no idea what Unteralterbach shows besides what people
wrote here earlier.)

> Firstly, for "healthy" people like myself, seeing this (even with the
> abuse images turned off, there is still a lot explained in the text)
> causes remembering it at inappropriate moments (which is any moment that
> I'm not playing the game).  I very much dislike this, and it is the
> reason I stopped playing.  This need not be a reason to exclude the game
> from Debian, but it may be, IMO.
> A more serious objection is the effect that it has on the "mentally ill"
> people that the game mentions.  I fear the effect that this game may
> have on them, could be to convince them that sex with children is not
> always a bad thing.  The fact that the children are so realistic
> otherwise may add to this risk that they may not keep fantasy and
> reality separate.  Their mental condition will surely stimulate that
> line of thinking.  In some cases, that may lead to more child abuse.  I
> would certainly not want to be responsible for that (in a broader sense
> than just legally).

To me this seems to be pretty much the same argument brought against
"killer games": people might not be able to keep fantasy and reality
separate and start running around shooting people. And I don't believe
in the argument against "killer games"...


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