Re: Ubuntu Gaming Team
Le 01/05/2009 à 09:23, Evgeni Golov a écrit :
> Hi persia, hi *,
>
> On Fri, 01 May 2009 15:41:46 +0900 Emmet Hikory wrote:
>
> > > - Create a 'games-swat' team for the triage of game bugs in Ubuntu.
> > > - Create a 'games-swat-bugs' mailing list.
> > > - All bugs reported against game packages in Ubuntu are subscribed to
> > > team and email sent to the 'games-swat-bugs' mailing list.
> > > - People join the 'games-swat' team.
> > > - People subscribe to the 'games-swat-bugs' mailing list which using
> > > filters will allow quick isolation of game bugs that a person can then
> > > look at and maybe assist with.
> > >
> > > This is similar to how X Swat works and I feel would be a good way for
> > > those 'volunteers' interested in helping with game bugs in Ubuntu to get
> > > exactly what they want and nothing else for triage or fixing. How this
> > > interacts with Debian is a further discussion but may increase the speed
> > > of bugs reports over to Debian and possibly fixes. It may also encourage
> > > people to develop directly as part of the joint Debian/Ubuntu
> > > development team.
Why is it need to split ?
What problem would be solved with this new organisation ?
My experience with ubuntu bug reports is :
- ubuntu tools are ill configured : reportbug and reportbug-ng send bugs to
debian, where they go to /dev/null as they are ubuntu bugs , not debian ones.
- launchpad is an inefficient tool, as it does not collect informations about
installed packages and versions, so bugreports lacks useful info.
- ubuntu feedback to debian and/or upstream is very light (mostly done by
people who are in debian too)
>
> Does this mean that everybody (if approved by some member) can join the
> team? Making running a PPA under the same team quite difficult :)
>
> > So, I noticed that Evgeni registered the pkg-games team on Launchpad
> > (2).
>
> This one was meant to provide backports of some of our games for older
> (Hardy, Intrepid) Ubuntu releases via a PPA, but can also used as you
> describe:
>
> > I'm curious what others think about taking the following
> > (separable) steps:
> >
> > a) Setting pkg-games-devel@l.a.d.o as the contact for the team
> >
> > This would send any launchpad mail generated for the team (from bug
> > subscriptions, PPA updates, etc.) to the mailing list, rather than team
> > members.
>
> Good idea, but maybe pkg-games-ubuntu@l.a.d.o? Dunno if we want to mix
> both, but prolly we do.
>
> > b) Setting the team as a bug contact for all the packages maintained by
> > the team.
>
> How does this work? Why does the original Maintainer field not generate
> such mails? But yes, noticing that there is a bug at ubuntu would be
> really great.
>
> > optional (c):
> > If most of the members of the team would prefer that
> > pkg-games-devel@l.a.d.o not be used also for Ubuntu bugmail, and also
> > support the use of this launchpad team to track packages in Ubuntu, it
> > is certainly possible to create a pkg-games@launchpad address for this
> > purpose instead.
>
> Ugh, that was my pkg-games-ubuntu@... scratch my idea then.
>
> Regards
> Evgeni Golov
>
I have the strange feeling that this is an atempt from ubuntu to take
control over game team, when i think ubuntu should reinforce debian
instead (debian is ubuntu's mother, historically and technically)
Alain.
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