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Re: The status of desktop-base in wheezy

On Friday, June 22, 2012 04:45:34 Ulrich Hansen wrote:
> Am 22.06.2012 um 04:00 schrieb Paul Tagliamonte:
> > Sorry, this wasn't the case. I was complaining about the lack of change
> > on debian-devel, got told to do it, prepared the changes, asked the
> > current maintainers, pushed the changes and notifed everyone.
> Well, thanks for notifying. A lot of people here were waiting for a vote.
> Just read this list. I know it's kind of a developer thing to want things
> get done and I respect that.
> But the people here (including me) are mostly non-developers, they were
> doing their artwork and some put a lot of time into it. I would have
> expected that this work would be judged in a fair manner, with a
> discussion and pros and cons and finally a vote. And not to be notified in
> a hurry by somebody who just was tired of waiting.
> > If this is not up to your standard, please hold a vote, revert my
> > patches, update the package and upload it.
> Yes, I would like to do that.
> I suggest to vote on this list.
> I suggest a timeframe of five days. So voting ends Tuesday, 26th of June,
> midnight.
> I suggest that everybody who is interested how Debian 7 will look like, can
> participate in that vote. So that means the poll is open for users.
> I suggest everybody has one vote and writes the name of the favored
> proposal into the subject line of his mail.

if everyone gets to name one theme, isn't there the danger of everyone naming 
themselves and every theme getting 1 vote? how about everyone submitting an 
ordered ranking of themes or something? (just a spontaneous idea)

i mostly want to say i agree with you and i share your frustration. you 
obviously were one of the most active contributors to this process. i think 
there is really a bit of a developer vs non-developer communication failure 
going on here.

> I suggest to make this poll immediately known to all user-communities and
> blogs.
> > I don't particularly want this role, I just want a new default and
> > decided to *help*.
> We all want a new default. And everybody here tried to help.
> >> because we have *9* days before freeze. That's *9* days to do all
> >> major changes.
> >> 
> >> That means:
> >> 
> >> write a theme for KDM, Ksplash, GDM, Plymouth, Splashy, GRUB, Migrate
> >> everyone else (filed two bugs earler against SLiM & ldm-themes) off
> >> spacefun, test it, and upload it.
> This is not so much work. I have helped the last time to do it. I am
> volunteering to do it now.
> If by this every Debian user gets to vote over the picture they will look
> at the next two years, that's OK with me.
> And even if we are voting for "Joy" (which would be a reasonable choice
> BTW) it would be a vote by the community and not by one single person.
> best wishes
> Ulrich

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