Re: mumble and celt, #682010, TC

[Ron <ron@debian.org>]

On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 07:56:06PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Ian Jackson writes ("Re: mumble and celt, #682010, TC"):
> > Patrick Matthäi writes ("Re: mumble and celt, #682010, TC"):
> > > I were the maintainer, with Thorvald, since mumble is included in Debian 
> > > and declined this job, since I were personaly attacked by some of our 
> > > DDs. I also talked with our leader about this situation.
> > > 
> > > Philipp and I *wanted* to continue the maintenance of celt for the 
> > > lifetime of wheezy, but for this idea Philipp and I just get more and 
> > > more personal insults, with the side effects that:
> > > 1) Philipp gave up *all* his efforts on Debian
> > > 2) I also wanted to resign, didn't done it but sorry now I have got a 
> > > fu....... opinion about this
> > 
> > I'm sorry you feel this way.
> ...
> > > Well known and he did everything so that nobody wants to do this job, 
> > > that - with the insults from some other DDs - is the only reason why I 
> > > do not want to do this job, anymore, but thanks for asking.
> > 
> > If you had the support of the Technical Committee, would it help ?
> 
> I have spoken to Patrick Matthaei on irc and he has informed me that,
> unfortunately, he does not want to get involved in this situation
> again, because of the abuse he has received.
> 
> Now, both Philippe and Patrick have alleged abuse; unfortunately, I am
> told, this was in private mainly via irc.  There apparently aren't any
> appropriate logs.
> 
> I would like to emphasise that personal abuse and insults along the
> lines described informally to me by Patrick are wholly unacceptable
> from one participant in Debian to another.
> 
> In future, I would encourage anyone who is on the receiving end of
> abusve behaviour to immediately contact, in private, someone in a
> position of authority in the project; you should give a complete irc
> transcript or the full text of relevant emails, etc.  If your irc
> client does not have logging enabled then a screenshot is good.
> (Please try to avoid publicly post your accusations of abuse, naming
> the accused, if you can.)
> 
> I'm sure that members of the TC, the Project Leader, former DPLs, and
> the suchlike would be happy to help anyone who is the victim of such
> abuse.  Part of our responsibility is to use our positions of
> influence to make sure that abuse does not continue.

I think I might actually have logs of the ALL CAPS screaming abuse I
received from Patrick Matthäi ...

But I'm not going to be so childish as to think that posting them
publicly or to others will actually make anything about that better.

The irony was amusing for a nanosecond though.

 Ron