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Re: Debian cloud images for OpenStack?

Le Sat, Jul 06, 2013 at 01:37:19PM +0800, Thomas Goirand a écrit :
> On 07/06/2013 08:32 AM, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > On other Cloud platforms, using Debian-Installer might be even
> > simpler.  Are there specific points that make people avoid using
> > Debian-Installer ?
> I see no reason to use d-i if we can use debootstrap directly. d-i is
> IMO less flexible, and forces you to use preseed if you want to run
> automatically. I also don't like the fact that you have to actually boot
> the virtual machine to have the installation happen, when this is really
> not needed.

There are pros and cons, but I see the use of presseeding as an advantage,
since it puts all the information in a single declarative text file.

Not being able to run d-i as a simple user of a running system is definitely
raising the bar for tinkering and testing, but on the other hand, on-the-fly
virtual machines is exctly what infrastructure services is giving us.

I have the impression that, given the scarcity of the manpower in Debian, it
could be a mutual benefit that the energy spent into making dozens of image
builders would be invested in acheiving this goal with debian-installer, so
that installation of fresh system on local hardware and creation of images for
virtual machines would be done with a unified tool.

This said, as long as d-i is not able to install Debian on a partitionless
disk, it is not a viable option.  Would there be someone intersted in tackling
this issue ?  (this requires C programming, which I do not have the time to


Charles Plessy
Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan

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