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Re: location of jigdo files for NON-US testing images of sarge dvds



On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 10:42:59AM +0530, email1@buylinuxdvd.com wrote:
>Steve McIntyre wrote:
>>Firstly, PLEASE don't send HTML email to mailing lists. Many people,
>>especially Debian developers, won't read it by preference.
>
>Apologies Steve, I have updated the setting in Thunderbird and hopefully 
>my email won't be sent in HTML format now...If it still does, I will 
>need guidance in configuring Thunderbird ;) Let me know if it still 
>comes across as HTML.

No, it's fine now. :-)

>>On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 02:14:40AM +0530, email1@buylinuxdvd.com wrote:
>>
>>>I am looking for NON-US testing images of sarge dvds.
>>>
>>>I have found the following url, which I guess, is for US dvd images:
>>>http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/dvd/jigdo-area/i386
>>>
>>>Any idea where I can find the jigdo files for NON-US testing images of
>>>sarge dvds?
>>
>>
>>There are no official non-US versions of the sarge CDs and DVDs;
>>almost all of the packages that used to be in non-US for woody have
>>now migrated into main, and the effort needed to produce two sets of
>>images is just not worth it for the very few packages that remain in
>>non-US.
>>
>
>Will no NON-US dvd images will be created for Sarge FINAL or they are 
>just not being created for testing images?....and if no NON-US images 
>will be created, does it mean the same images are available for download 
> from USA as well as outside USA?

There are currently no plans to create official non-US images again,
so people will download the same images anywhere.

>Here is the reason I need this info...
>My understanding is US images can be sold/distributed only in US, and 
>NON-US images can be sold only outside US?...so to sell/distribute 
>debian dvds in anywhere outside US, one needs to download NON-US 
>images....even if very few packages are different in both, only the 
>appropriate images can be distributes in US or outside US.
>
>....so where does one find official jigdo files for NON-US sarge images?

Ah, you've misunderstood the problem. The previous US/non-US split was
more complicated than that. The US images were entirely free and safe
and were suitable for anyone to use. The non-US images added extra
software on top (basically crypto software) that was also free, but
due to US export restrictions could not be freely exported from the
US. In that situation, we recommended that most people used the non-US
images (even inside the US), but used the main (US) images where there
was a chance that the images/CDs might be exported from the US.

Now that US crypto software policy has come out of the dark ages,
almost all of what _was_ in non-US has migrated into the main archive
and so is fine for everybody to use. In that situation, the very few
pieces of software remaining in non-US no longer merit the large
amount of extra work, disk space and bandwidth for official non-US
images to be made. Simply download the normal images and use them as
you will. OK?

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.                                steve@einval.com
"Every time you use Tcl, God kills a kitten." -- Malcolm Ray

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