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Re: Are PIK mirrors obsolete?

The important thing first: jigdo-mirror needs more testers! When 3.0r0
is released, cdimage will be so overloaded that any rsync-based
mirroring will be very slow, so set up jigdo-mirror instead!

On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 12:57:01AM +0200, Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
> On Sun, 26 May 2002, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> > On mirrors.kernel.org, we recently suffered a major disk failure, which
> > among other things ate our PIK CD mirror setup.  I went to look for the
> > software again, and find that "it has mostly been superceded by jigdo,
> > and that is the only way to download the Debian DVD images."

I've been wondering whether the info on the PIK should be removed
altogether from the web pages - will .list files still be generated
for 3.0 and later releases?

> PIK was kind of inefficient and required a final rsync to get the
> full image, which requires (at least) the master site to carry a
> full set of images. Jigdo is kind of a better PIK in that it builds
> an actual image, not just a pseudo-image from a jigdo file and a
> template (containing the literal data not found in packages on your
> local debian mirror).

jigdo-mirror does not even strictly need a local Debian mirror,
although it's strongly recommended.

> The downsides if jigdo is that it is a fairly complex C++ program
> which means some portability issues when dealing with older systems.

FWIW, I fixed a few issues lately. I suspect it still won't work for
you, but if you have the time you can try it out again and tell me
where it fails now.

> There exists a C port, but that is not actively maintained
> currenlty. It is also a fairly new system, which means just the
> obvious bugs have been noticed and taken care of. I believe there
> are some usability issues to take care of after The Release.

What "usability issues"? :) I'm making slow progress with the jigdo
GUI app if that's what you mean...

> http://www.acc.umu.se/~maswan/debian-push/jigdo-mirror
> Richard: Perhaps the jigdo-mirror script should be in a more
> official place than here and in the list archives?

jigdo-mirror has been part of the last two jigdo releases. I always
had the feeling that nobody bothers to read my release announcements.

On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 01:31:10AM +0200, Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
> The jigdo-mirror script would be the equivalent of debcdmirror, it
> could probably use some work since I think I am the only one that
> has reported usage of it (and I found some issues).

Yes, so far yours was the only feedback.

> Or you could wait until after the woody release, jigdo is new and
> really put into place with the distribution of woody images. I'm
> sure most issues will be dealt with a couple of weeks after that.

Are you thinking of any particular "issues"?



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