Re: D-I - Official warning not to upload any packages containing udebs
On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 11:28:34AM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sunday 29 October 2006 22:06, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Frans, face it, this has been, since months now, a private feud between you
> > and me
>
> No.
Oh, no ? Then what is it ? This clearly doesn't seem to be the opinion of
people like Alphix for example.
> > Furthermore, the sad truth is that you have been unable to find someone to
> > do the powerpc d-i porting job since over 6 months now, and that you hurt
> > the powerpc users by this childish behaviour.
>
> The sad truth is, that you (Sven) have made me (and others) turn away from
> wanting to contribute to d-i cause I'm sick of your whining, flames, abuse
> and whatnot.
And Frans bashing me on every minor occasion is perfectly ok ? Why do you
think i wanted that this issue be solved once and for all and quickly ?
And more to the point, if they had banned me from posting on debian-boot,
instead of removing my commit access, which would have made much more sense,
we would not be in this mess.
> More than once I was motivated to work on powerpc issues and the ppc-manual,
> but each time I looked into d-i I saw very disgusting and tiring arguments or
> just plain flames which you (Sven) brought up, so that usually after reading
Yeah, all my fault, right ?
> them I got fed up and did something else. (In the beginning I also tried to
> moderate/help/proxy whatnot, but after trying and seeing my efforts wasted by
> you, I gave up.)
> Now I happily contribute to powerpc in debian-edu. (Through that I came back
> to work a bit on d-i again.)
Nice, but you cannot put all the fault on me, that would be highly unfair. I
have been behaving well ever since the affair with dato, and mostly also
before that, and been committing work.
You cannot say you are feedup with me, not if you are honest at least, but you
are feedup, as i am too, by this whole dispute between frans and me.
All i want is to be able to work on d-i, commit changes, and play along well,
exactly like every other contributor to d-i. I really don't understand why
frans feels that i am such a danger, or that i have to be so humiliated,
especially as he continuous bashing me at least twice a month without any
provocation whatsoever.
> I now have you on ignore on IRC and mark your mails automatically as read.
Yeah, thanks, i know most people have me on ignore and killfill me one way or
the other, i can live with that, as long as you are not trying deliberately to
*HURT* my work and the powerpc users, as frans's action do.
> This really helps to be able to concentrate and work. But as I am again now
> wasting my time again on your stupid "mission" (though only 5mins for this
> mail) I am seriously thinking about marking all mails as read which refer to
> any msgid of yours.
And what will you gain by this ? People like you are so feedup with my mails,
like it was the ultimate crime or something. And on the other side, people
like Alphix say this does not concern them, so they ignore it.
But why are you letting Frans handle me like dirt ? Why did you, you the d-i
team, let this messy situation drag on for months ? You cannot honestly
complain about these recurring threads, while on the same time supporting
frans in his current behaviour ?
At least you could have said something too to him, or something.
> Sven, you hurt the powerpc port more than anybody else.
Holger, i extremely recent that. I like you and have respect for you, but
really, i would very much like you to think about what has been going on for
months now, and then come back here and say the same.
Friendly, but hurt,
Sven Luther
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