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Re: Usability issues for the GTK graphical frontend, categorized and updated list

On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 01:54:10AM +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote:
> On 10/25/05, Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 02:43:28PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 25 October 2005 10:18, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > > Cool, actually, if there where a way to build them from the official
> > > > build system, i could build one myself, i was kind of waiting for that
> > > > to be stabilized, but i think i understood from Franz's last mail that
> > > > this is not quite the case yet.
> > >
> > > No, not quite. On the other hand, all the steps that need to be taken
> > > manually are fairly clearly documented in the wiki [1].
> > >
> > > The only thing that should need to be compiled manually are the frontend
> > > and rootskel-gtk (which is trivial).
> >
> > Well, i have followed the instructions (would have been faster if Alistairs
> > packages would have been uploaded somewhere else, but well ...), and it then
> > fails with :
> >
> >   $ fakeroot make build_powerpc_gtk-miniiso
> >   # Getting temporary GTK tarballs...
> >   mkdir -p ./tmp/powerpc_gtk-miniiso/gtk-tb
> >   wget ""http://merci/debian/d-i_gtkfrontend/""; -O ./tmp/powerpc_gtk-miniiso/gtk-index
> >   --14:11:34--  http://merci/debian/d-i_gtkfrontend/
> >              => `./tmp/powerpc_gtk-miniiso/gtk-index'
> >   Resolving merci...
> >   Connecting to merci||:80... connected.
> >   HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
> >   14:11:39 ERROR 404: Not Found.
> >
> > And i think something is seriously wrong here, what are those tarballs, and
> > why is it trying to wget them from some random place ?
> :-)
> well that (merci) is my machine :-)
> I didn't got to the point of fixing that to make it localhost, as I
> should have done from the start.

Hehe, fixed that already, but was hit by the mklibs problem.

> My configuration is a PowerBook 5,2 model (ATI Radeon 9700 Mobility)

Oh, you will want :


then :) Even has packages files and all.

> I managed to make that iso image build, but not yet functional in
> graphical mode (stroboscope effect, as I call it), but it works with
> newt, so it seems to be an arch specific issue.

Can you tell me exactly what the problem is ? 

> I can provide a broken iso on my router:
> http;//

I built the miniiso too, but it does not include the non-yaboot targets so its
useless. For some reason the pegasos firmware does not like the huge initrd,
but i will be looking into that in a day or two. /me likes having access to
firmware source :)

> The tgz-s are available at
> and they are fonts that
> are needed in the iso and the gtk.so library which is not present in
> any place as an udeb.

Ok, frank already told me this one.

> You could ask Frans for more info on this issue. (the tgz-s are a way
> to get past the problem that there is no udebs available for some of
> the needed stuff in the GTK fe)
> The image in question didn't had any library reduction yet.
> If you could debug the problem would be really nice (I didn't had the
> time to do this myself, as I was really busy lately)

Bastian Blank promised me he would have a look.

> > > Eddy has already done work on creating the configuration files needed for
> > > PPC and a lot of that has been committed to my people branch in SVN.
> >
> > Ah, maybe some bits are missing ?
> Nah, is just a wrong host (plase rename merci into and
> it should work fine, or you could, alternatively build your own tgz to
> be faster.
> Another option would be to store the ppc d-i_gtk_fe.tgz on frans' page
> under a special directory, or on your page; in any case I am fine with
> it.
> > > There may be additional tweaking needed in boot/ config/ and pkg-lists/.
> > > rootskel-gtk is another place where specific actions may be required prior
> > > to starting d-i.
> Probably not, as I have took care of those...
> The only things you might need might be the localudebs (
> ) which are
> exact copies of the ones in the official archive - probably the
> rootskel was updated and a few others, but the list of udebs might be
> helpful ;-)

Frans, should i upload the powerpc .udebs for localudebs to your site or
something ? i mean, so people don't need to go hunting for them and rebuild
packages themselves ?

> good luck and please ask, if you have any more questions.

Well, i think i either need to reboot my powerbook, or do some firmware
hacking before i can go further. I wonder if a NFS-ROOT setup could launch it,
but i would need a special kernel for that.


Sven Luther

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