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Re: Should we really use countries in languagechooser



On Thu, Dec 25, 2003 at 09:43:55AM +0000, Alastair McKinstry wrote:
> Happy Holidays!

> On Thu, 2003-12-25 at 09:09, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > Quoting Anmar Oueja (anmar@canada.com):

> > > Please change it as you see fit. As a matter of fact. in the 
> > > languagechoose.l10n I put in "choose Arabic to begin installer (Arab 
> > > World" in arabic of course to direct it to all Arabic speakers 
> > > regardless of their country of origin
> > 
> > I'll try to make some general proposals about this. My whole feeling
> > is that countries are unneeded in d-i.
> > 
> > But I need to speak of this with Alastair.....and list.

> The country information is used in two places:
> (1) In selecting dialect; eg. US American vs British; Swiss German 
>     vs German (in principle; not done yet, I believe)
> (2) To select _default_ values for other things:
> 	- keyboard
>  	- ftp mirror
> 	- timezone
> 	others?

> Perhaps one possibility is to ask the country question at a lower
> priority _after_ the language question, if necessary; e.g. we might not
> need to ask the 'which country' bit for many languages, and it would
> simplify the language question. This approach was taken in woody, I
> believe.

> The default value of the country question would be 'XX' for undefined,
> unless the question is answered by the user (or a GPS device, etc).

Given the very loose correlation between languages and localities, I
think this sounds like a good idea.  I would even be inclined to say that
*all* countries should be listed as options for this second question,
even though the default (and first few choices? -- is this sorting
possible?) should be set based on the language chosen.  In many cases,
asking the country question at high enough priority could make the
timezone question superfluous, though keyboard and ftp mirror are still
needed.

I wouldn't argue for removing the country question altogether, both
because it makes it easy to default through a number of other d-i
questions, and because it provides a reasonable default for
locale-related questions in the second stage.

Cheers,
-- 
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer

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