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Re: How I want languagechooser to behave



On Mon, 2003-02-24 at 23:33, Denis Barbier wrote:
> Hi, you did not send your message to debian-boot, do you want to post
> it again, or do you want me to reply there?
> 

Sorry. Late night. I meant debian-boot.



> Denis
> 
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 11:08:23PM +0000, Alastair McKinstry wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, 2003-02-24 at 22:01, Denis Barbier wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 08:01:05PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > > This package should behava as follows:
> > > > 
> > > >   0. extract available languages from list of available locales
> > > >      (mapping language code -> language name)
> > > 
> > > I disagree, there is no reason to propose languages which have no
> > > translated templates.
> > 
> > There are (partial) translations for Linux into at least 58 languages
> > (in iso-codes, I've collected translations for 58; I know the Indian
> > translations do more that I've not seen); we have translations for a lot
> > less.
> > We want the user to be able to select languages once on setup; hence
> > allow them to do it here; 
> > maybe we just show the 7 or so template-translated languages here, with
> > "Other", allowing a fuller list, but ..
> >  given the modular nature of the installer, how do we know what
> > translations we have in total? The full list is probably safer.
> > 
> > 
> > > >   1. present list of language names, and ask the user to pick one.
> > > >
> > > >   2. if the language is available in several regions (maps to several
> > > >      locales), ask which region / language variant to use.  (allow
> > > >      user to [back] off to the language list.
> > > 
> > > Why don't merge 1 and 2 into a single list?
> > 
> > > >   3. pass the locale information on to the parts that needs it.
> > > > 
> > > > Based on this information a locale is selected.  This locale maps to one
> > > > language, one region, a priority list of fallback languages,
> > > 
> > > Does this mean that LANGUAGE is fully determined by this locale, or can
> > > it be edited?
> > > 
> > > > and a default keyboard layout.
> > > 
> > > Shouldn't keyboard layout be handled by kbd-chooser?
> > > 
> > 
> > kbd-chooser picks the default mostly based on language (it may also do
> > so based on autodetecting kbd, particularly in the USB case).
> > 
> > Please don't have languagechooser have knowledge of kbdmaps; this is
> > complex enough as it is, and modularity should not be broken.
> > 
> > 
> > Also,  allow for the case that a (default) language and country may be
> > autodetected and passed to languagechooser by a (as yet unwritten)
> > previous module. Some BIOSes & bootloaders, eg the SRM console on
> > Alphas, have language, country settings; a udeb might read these and use
> > them to pick default languages,etc for languagechooser, in which case
> > the languagechooser might lower the priority of the question, and allow
> > that question to be skipped.
> > 
> > - Alastair
> > 
> > -- 
> > Alastair McKinstry <mckinstry@computer.org>
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> > 
> > He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from
> > oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that
> > will reach to himself.
> > 
> > - --Thomas Paine
> > 
> 
-- 
Alastair McKinstry <mckinstry@computer.org>
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