Re: Woody Installation
* Axel Schlicht
| So now we try CD #2
| Whow, now we get a welcome screen
| and - via F3 - are presented with a few options:
| linux, ramdisk{0,1}, floppy{0,1}, and rescue. Not much of a choice for
| kernels.
You can choose kernels etc by choosing which CD to use.
| As I had to disable all drives except /dev/hda I'll have to to without a
| swap drive.
|
| ...
| Mounting /dev/sda4
Uhm, you are saying you only had hda here, but then continuing to
mount sda4?
| Install Kernel and Driver Modules : pressed enter : skipped by install
| routine (not good)
Parse error.
[...]
| Hey folks. This is just sick. Now, you have to be a C-programmer to
| solve such a problem. I hate programming (testing and documentation is
| fun, programming is just sick). How do you expect Johnny user to figure
| this out? Why not tell users how to enter parameters?
Because it is dependend on the kernel module?
| + nls_cp437 : OK
| + vfat : OK
| (No description available) : That's a joke, isn't it
| + nfs : OK
| (No description available) : That's a joke, isn't it
file bugs against modconf.
| Select Installation Medium (didn't we have that before and before ...)
I usually install base from the network, though I may install the
kernel from cd, so this is a sane question.
| Error Messages:
| scsi <fdomain> Detection failed (no card)
| NCR53c416a : no availanble ports found
| sym53c416.c: version 1.0.0
| Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card
| IBM MCA SCSI: Version 3.2
| IBM MCA SCSI: No Microchannel-bus present --> Aborting
| This machine does not have any IBM MCA-bus
| megaraid; v1.11 (Aug 23,2000)
| aec671x_detect:
| 3ware Storage Controller device driver for Linux v1.02.00.008.
| 3w-xxxx: tw_findcards(): No cards found.
|
| So, Linux seems to scan for several scsi-adapters. How to disable this?
Make a new initrd or compile your own kernel?
| scsi0 : Adaptec AHA274x/284x/294x (EISA(VLB/PCI-Fast SCSI) 5.1.33/3.2.4
| <Adaptec AHA-294X SCSI host adapter>
| scsi : 1 host
|
| Vendor : IBM Model: DCAS-34330 Rev: S65A
| Type Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
| Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
|
| Vendor: PLEXTOR Model: CD-ROM PX-32TS Rev: 1.01
| Type : CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
| Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 4, lun 0
|
| Vendor: CyberDrv Model: CD-ROM TW240S Rev: 1.40
| Type : CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
| Detected scsi CD-ROM sr1 at scsi0, channel 0, id 5, lun 0
|
| Vendor: PLEXTOR Model: CD-ROM Rewritable-2x2x6 Rev: 2.00
| Type : CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
| Detected scsi CD-ROM sr2 at scsi0, channel 0, id 6, lun 0
|
| scsi : detected 3 SCSI cdroms 1 SCSI disk total
|
| ...
| sr0: NOT LISTED, WHY ?????
| sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
| sr2 scsi3-mmc drive: 2x/6x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
|
| Partition check
| sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4
| hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 hda9 hda10 hda11 > hda2
| hdb: hdb1 < hdb5 hdb6 hdb7 hdb8 hdb9 hdb10 hdb11 >
| hdc: [PTBL] [2491/255/63] hdc1 < hdc5 hdc6 hdc7 >
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| What's that? Why? Seems to be Partition table / CHS, but why?
Asking those who make the installation system why the kernel prints
stuff in a particular way isn't too productive. I suggest you ask
those on debian-user@lists.debian.org
| insmod: modprobe: cannot create /var/log/ksymoops/20020908.log Read-only
| file system
| insmod: /libs/modules/2.2.20/misc/unix.o: cannot create
| /var/log/ksymoops/20020908121553.ksyms Read-only file sestem
| insmod: /libs/modules/2.2.20/misc/unix.o: cannot create
| /var/log/ksymoops/20020908.log Read-only file sestem
|
| is this serious?
no.
| Loading modules:
| unix af_packet ne2k-pci ne2k-pci.c: v1.02 for Linux 2.2 ....
| ??? af_packet: what's that, who installed that?
packet socket, iirc.
| nek2k-pci.c: PCI NE2000 clone 'Realtek RTL-8029' at I/O 0xb800, IRQ 12
|
| eth0: RealTek RTL-8029 found at 0xb800, IRQ12, MAC-Address
| sb Soundblaster audio driver Coipyright ...
| SB 4.13 detected OK (220)
| sb: interrupt test on IRQ7 failed - probable IRQ conflict
| nls_cp437 vfat nfs
|
|
| /proc/modules
| sb 32456 0 (unused)
| uart401 5872 0 [sb]
| sound 56384 0 [sb uart401]
| soundlow 384 0 [sound]
| soundcore 2452 5 [sb sound]
| usb-uhci 18220 0 (unused)
| usbcore 43920 0 [usb-uhci]
| * ide-scsi 7060 0
| * parport_probe 3360 0 (autoclean)
| * parport_pc 7276 1 (autoclean)
| lp 4580 0 (autoclean)
| * parport 6852 1 (autoclean) [parport_probe parport_pc
| lp]
| * pcmcia_core 45824 0
| nfs 71180 0 (unused)
| lockd 42420 0 [nfs]
| * sunrpc 57816 0 [nfs lockd]
| vfat 9428 0
| nls_cp437 3896 1
| ne2k-pci 4240 1
| 8390 5944 0 [ne2k-pci]
| af_packet 6152 0 (unused)
| unix 11352 5 (autoclean)
|
| Why ide-scsi? Never asked for that. The only DVD drive may also be
| accessed through directly.
| Sunrpc? What's that
Needed by nfs.
| Pcmcia? Didn't we remove Pcmcia during intallation?
uhm, no?
| Parport? I only want to print thru my parallel port. No scanners, No
| CD-ROMs, nothing else.
you still need a kernel driver.
| What can I delete?
anything which is not used.
| Q: How secure are passwords like 'I1,just4.want4 in2 No_of_Chars11'. Can
| they easily be cracked too? (Meaningful sentence + special chars on the
| same key on all keyboards)
quite. The Debian installation is not supposed to be a beginner's
course on UNIX.
| delete PCMCIA
|
| No PPP for installing
|
| Apt-Configuration
| /dev/cdrom : yuck : changed to /mnt/cd32 = /dev/sr0
| fstab : /dev/sr0 /mnt/cd32 iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0
| mount /mnt/cd32 works
|
| entering /mnt/cd32 in Ap-config causes error-message : /mnt/cd32 no
| block device
| mounting /mnt/cd32 solves this problem, but apt-config is skipped (very
| bad)
| No way back.
| How do I configure it now?
you have to tell apt what block device to use. apt-cdrom should help
you with that.
| login
| man apt
| man apt-cache
| yucck, pager is more, no less installed (extremely bad)
You installed base and said no to dselect and tasksel, that means you
have a minimal system.
| man apt.conf
| man apt-config
| apropos apt -> apt : nothing appropriate (that's ridiculous)
| Nothing tells me how to create apt.conf. As there was a graphical
| interface in the install program, it would be nice if it could be used
| outside the installation process.
apt.conf? Huh? You might be looking for apt-setup?
| How do I find out how to find out how to find out any information on
| anything in Debian?
Read the docs?
I got the official handbook (by Linuxland) by
| For some stupid reason it insists on /dev/cdrom (direct access to a dev
| file, aaargh) which
| points to /dev/scd0, why not to /dev/sr0 ???
| How to get rid of ide-pci (might cause that scd0). And how to set up apt
| so it will only access /mnt/sd32 (mount point for /dev/sr0).
idepci is your kernel flavor. And if you want apt-cdrom to work
properly, it needs to know the block device.
| And why do we have a /cdrom file. Shouldn't there be anything
| superfluous in /? Same goes for kernel-links (vmlinuz ->
| /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.20). Shouldn't they only be in /boot.
no, they should be there.
| But apt insists on /cdrom. How can I change that to /mnt/cd32
/etc/fstab.
| Well now it runs, but defauts to NOT scanning another CD. Should be no
| problem, after all Debian only consists of one CD and will never grow to
| more than one.
Go read http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=682&cid=9161
We are not your servants. We do our best. Throwing shit in our face
is useless.
| What happens if you accidentally hit no. Will the next scan delete the
| old file, wrongly append, will everything be fine. Documented where?
man apt-cdrom?
| Apt Configuration : final question:
| security updates : How to do? Shall I connect as root ?????
| How to do this with a second PC set up as a gateway?
| So it's 'no' for the moment.
|
| Well, apt seems to be happy now, so let's run tasksel.
| Aaargh
| X window system : 3.* ? 4.* ? Task info won't tell.
| Desktop environment : how to run anything except kde? Like fvwm,
| blackbox etc.
| Dialup : Why woffle? What do I need this for? I don't want to cache
| anything.
| Why is anacron in dialup, I would expect it in base.
I suggest you use dselect or aptitude, since you know what you want
and don't want.
| So let's try X only. (And have fun afterwards lloking for all the apps
| one by one)
| Eh? X installs bc, biff, binutils, bison, cpp, ispell, cpp, gdb?
| Strange.
Why is that strange?
| xdm? I don't want any graphical login.
Then don't install xdm.
| Binutils: Kernel link failure info. Nice. Affects which kernels? 2.2.*,
| 2.4.*
| 2.2.17 in Potato (2.2.r0) did link OK). Info should be saved to disk, so
| scribbling down again.
It is.
| less installs now? less part of X?????? Strange.
parse error.
| Configuring Xserver-xfree84 with debconf
| /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 : well, might really be X 4.x
| let's say yes. How can I change this afterwards?
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
| Select the server.
| Nice. What do I chose here?
| Whats nv, imstt, apm (power management???), sis?
| Will mga be OK for a millenium 400?
mga, yes.
| Framebuffer ???
| Yes
no, usually not.
| b) a clear indication Linux needs much better, didactically divine
| documentation (for users, that is people who want to know how to
| dothings, not gurus, who just want to know that they didn't find
| anything new in a book / article, already knew all of it, slap
| themselves on their shoulder and feel wonderful). The only thing to
| help me was a few years' experience in mainframes and DOS.
Then I suggest you sit down and write that documentation. Scratch
your own itch.
| I once offered to do tranlations, but so far have not been able to get
| the stuf out of the CVS repository (because it's only accessible under
| Linux, so, if you are unable to access the web under Linux (as I was for
| several years up to shortly before, external modem never yielding more
| than 100 bits per secons, AVM Fritz PCI card v 2.0 not working under
| Potato (at least I couldn't find any open source drivers, or any driver
| for Debian, Suse / Redhat there they are galore)), I couln't help
| despite wanting to do so.
uhm, what OS does _not_ have a CVS client those days?
| Same goes for documentation, how shall anybody (even me, I like
| documentation as stated above) do it, with nothing being provided (no I
| don't read source code).
|
| So any help will be greatly appreciated. Links to _good_ and _complete_
| documentation in
| any EU language except Greek / Finnish, as well as Japanese, Korean or
| easy Russian will be be thankfully accepted.
Have you read http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual ?
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