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Re: multiarch/bi-arch status (ETA) question

On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 11:46:12AM -0400, David Wood wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Hugo Mills wrote:
> >  They're not (directly) the way that the Debian multiarch is most
> >likely to go. Unfortunately, the relevant site seems to be down, but
> >take a look at [1], and possibly some of the other (Google cached)
> >files in [2].
> Just out of curiosity; does anyone know what was wrong with the
> way documented in:
> http://www.linuxbase.org/futures/ideas/multiarch/

   It's pretty vague, since it doesn't deal with any of the problems
of actually implementing those (fairly high-level) suggestions in any
given package management system.

> On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Hugo Mills wrote:
> >>If I may venture a little further, the idea that all of this must be done
> >>in one giant atomic effort is apparently very popular... why?
> >
> >  Because you can't demonstrate that your modified packages are
> >actually going to work properly (and in fact, they won't, if you make
> >only the modifications you propose) without having a working
> >multiarch-aware packaging system to test them with.
> Sure you can. Just test them.

   How? You can't install your two multiarch versions of libvorbis
without a hacked package manager that understands how to do it.

> It sounds like you want to maintain two sets of packages: one normal, one
> fixed for multiarch. Is that really easier than just making the links,
> updating your existing set of packages over time, and doing verification
> on a pre-release multiarch systems with increasing aggressiveness until a
> multiarch release?

   You make it sound all so simple...

   Might I suggest you present a set of patches for dpkg that allows
the installation of two different architectures of a library in a
consistent and functional manner? I'm certainly willing to talk over
the details with you towards that end.

   Yes, I'm harping on about the problems of the package manager side
of things, but only because those are the ones I've tried to work on
in the past and know the best.


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