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Re: collect debian-admintools



On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 06:59:40AM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 12:35:31PM +1000, Gus wrote:
> > > So what if he uses a new thing "needs=configtool" and a menumethod
> > > that only extracts these entries?
> > in which case, why use the menu system at all?
> > (but then, i suppose "why not" is a valid argument too)
> The user, root etc. can use the other packages to start the collected
> programs or read the documentation. 

users can't. (or shouldn't)

> If I don't use the menu system, I have to write a second system
> (dconfig-register) and this 'new' system do the same like the menu
> system. This is not the unix way, to do things.

its an absolutely trivial script (both the register and dconfig scripts)

register-config does a
echo "$command	$label" >> /etc/dconfig.list

and dconfig just prints the list and runs the chosen command

it hardly qualifies as a "system"

(alternatively, you could just do a `locate -e '*/sbin/*config'` and then
you wouldn't need any modification to packages)

> With the using of the menu system, the admin on the system can use all
> the options from the menu system:
>  he can add the config-tools to the window-manager menue
>  ha can edit the menue items
>  he can move the menue structur
>  users can have different menues
>  if root deinstall a package, the item aren't show 
>  he can add own items
>  he don't need learn new Options, new programs, new system -> he use
>     only  the 'old' menu system
> 

except that normal users aren't going to see the menu items (thats a
good thing) and aren't going to have the privileges to run them anyway

and root should not be using the tools from the window-manager menu,
since he should not be logging into X as root

it just seems you gain nothing that less than a screen of scripting
couldn't gain you, and you lose future flexibility (not to mention
having to hack yet another thing into menu)


but since i'm not doing the package, its not really any of my business..

-- 
 - Gus


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