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Re: Centris 650 Debian 10 SID Installation



On Wed, 19 Jun 2019, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

> On 6/13/19 12:13 PM, Finn Thain wrote:
> > The timeout problem I was referring to has come up before on m68k systems.
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-68k/2016/06/msg00000.html
> > 
> > I don't claim that systemd is "slow". It's just that it does a lot of work 
> > that's not needed on small systems. If it was more modular, like the 
> > kernel, all of that extra functionality wouldn't be a burden. Instead, to 
> > run systemd at all, I had to actually enable extra kernel modules, which 
> > just adds to the bloat problem. 
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-68k/2016/02/msg00064.html
> 
> You can mask services you don't need. It's just that Debian's systemd is 
> using a fully fledged setup by default given the fact it's more designed 
> for larger systems. We don't have a custom systemd package for m68k as 
> that would mean we would get out of sync with the rest of Debian.
> 
> But again, just turn off what you don't need and systemd is fast.
> 
> > While I do think alternatives to systemd should be encouraged, I don't 
> > expect the Debian project to provide them. Adding alternatives can only 
> > lead to more work for all debian maintainers whose packages interact with 
> > those alternatives. That seems like a huge amount of effort compared with 
> > a small number of users running Debian on small systems like these.
> 
> You don't need alternatives to systemd. Just configure systemd towards your
> needs.
> 

I fondly remember the good old days when the HTTPS daemon depended on 
init, not the other way around...

https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=systemd&arch=m68k&ver=241-5&stamp=1558758041&raw=0

-- 

> Adrian
> 
> 


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