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Re: Centris 650 Debian 10 SID Installation



On 6/10/19 2:11 AM, Finn Thain wrote:
>> I tried twice using the stock CD-ROM drive and once using a more modern 
>> CD-ROM drive. In all three cases, installation of the basic system 
>> succeeded after about four hours, then stopped at the "Configure the 
>> package manager" menu -- "Your installation CD or DVD has been scanned 
>> ... Scan another CD or DVD?". 
> 
> Maybe you need to use a different initrd? There are several on the ISO. 

No, there is only one initrd used for cdrom installation. The others are
for netboot, i.e. booting kernel and initrd from a TFTP server. The netboot
initrds don't contain any CD-ROM drivers and won't work for CD-ROM installations.

> I'm no expert with the debian installer, but I suspect you should be using 
> the initrd for the netinst method (?)

There is no "netinst" initrd. There are initrds for "cdrom" and "netboot".

NETINST is a normal CD-ROM installation image. It just comes with less
packages than the full CD-ROM sets which provide all packages on the
installation media.

NETINST and netboot are two completely distinct things and not to be
confused.

>> Maybe that kernel only works for installation using the accompanying 
>> initrd? 
> 
> No, the debian kernel works for other purposes too, but you would need to 
> generate a suitable initrd if you want to use it for other purposes.

Correct. The initrd for installed systems is always generated:

# update-initramfs -k $(uname -r) -c -v

>> I next tried booting using a serial console (console=ttyS0,9600n8). 
>> After the expected slowness of systemd bringing everything up (about 
>> eight minutes),
> 
> Right, systemd is hopeless on these machines. Not just because the CPU is 
> slow, but because systemd sets short timeouts on it's own units which 
> those units can't live up to. That means that systemd enforces policy that 
> excludes slow hardware.

I haven't seen any particular slowness issues except for the login delay
with systemd on elgar.

Adrian

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