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Re: Recommendations for trying etch-m68k

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Brian Morris wrote:

> On 7/14/07, Finn Thain <fthain@telegraphics.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 13 Jul 2007, Brian Morris wrote:
> >
> > > On 7/13/07, Joel Ewy <jcewy@swbell.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > I'd like to try Etch-m68k.  The machine I'd like to use is a 
> > > > Quadra 630 with a 1.1G IDE drive and 54M RAM.
> >
> > says avoid composite modules. Each has 36 chips:
> >
> > Digital Equipment Corp part no. 54-24123-AA
> > 64MB EDO ECC 60NS 72 PIN SIMM 16MX36
> mine are supplied via an apple-only vendor (we love macs) and they don't 
> have so many chips but they are still only recommended for 630 or 605 
> AFAIK. maybe you saved a few $ though ...

Well, they were cheap (2nd hand on ebay) and I think I'll be able to use 
both anyway (though they are too tall for the LC or Q605 cases).

> I remember having a problem with my disk that the 630 would not shut 
> down, rather it would hang, and i had to reboot into macos. that you 
> fixed in the 2.6.20 kernel, that was broken in the 2.6.18.

You are right. I forgot about that -- one patch was revised. Avoid 2.6.18 
on macs with IDE and ethernet.

> I never used any thing other than the kernels you i get from debian. 
> then there were some more patches from christian and yourself including 
> some scsi helps, right ? (even though the 630 used ide hd, it does have 
> a scsi bus too and I use both myself).

I think SCSI behaviour may have improved as a side-effect of the IRQ 
patches, but only in as much as probing devices may be more reliable. If 
you never saw a crash during the boot-up SCSI probe, you probably won't 
notice any difference at all. (I never really understood what that was 

> FYI, i was looking at changelogs both debian and mainline the other day, 
> trying to figure out where/ if your patches are included, I am not sure 
> if you are gettting credit where due, I saw gert/roman in the mainline 
> and christian in the debian but i did not see your name, I know you have 
> been working hard and helping the macs a lot, I hope those guys at least 
> throw you a "thanks" in the notes if they are not too busy, even 
> belatedly.

I appreciate the thought :-)

As far as due credit goes, the changelogs in the mainline kernel are quite 

> any way I am planning to build a 22 for myself, but not sure when. like 
> I said, etch will be going to 22, in update, anyway.  20 is ok on my 
> 630, better than 18, i am running 20 now (or 21 ? no has to be 20).

Good to hear.


> imho best thing for joel is grab whatever latest kernel is on unstable 
> for 68k, try that... it should work with dependencies from etch
> 20 is really the current kernel. For instance I saw it today on a
> kubuntu freshly installed (intel of course), stock system.

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