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Re: [Debconf-team] Deadline (Re: Collaboratively drafting the next DebConf delegation)



On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki <eric@zhevny.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:49:11PM +0200, Daniel Lange wrote:
>> Dear team,
>> Please contribute your ideas / changes / amendments within the next two
>> or three weeks. Edrz extended the deadline to 16.11.2015 so that we
>> should have sufficient time for discussion. I hope that we can come up
>> with one joint proposal for a delegation letter draft for the DPL from
>> DebConf as a whole.
>
> It's impossible for me to have extended a deadline that had not yet been
> announced. I don't consider it appropriate for the drafters to set a
> deadline nor for me to do so.
>
> Daniel mentioned the titanpad draft yesterday on irc around 20:30 UTC.
> AFAIK this was the first public mention that a draft was in progress.
> The titanpad timeline shows it has been discussed at least since
> 2015-10-08. By version 42 we have mention of a private email from
> Bernelle:
>
> https://titanpad.com/ep/pad/view/DC16-draft-delegation-proposal/rev.42
>
> Before that it is impossible to tell how long this has been in the
> works. An undisclosed group have been corresponding in private about
> this draft for at least 12 days _and_ proposed to give anyone they
> excluded only 2 weeks to respond, contribute or create a counter
> proposal. You have given yourselves an unfair head start on anyone who
> might disagree with you.
>
> I objected to the 2 weeks and was told "it's a titanpad, change it" so I
> added 2 weeks, which is my sole contribution. Maybe 4 weeks from now is
> fine, maybe it's too long, maybe it's not long enough. A deadline needs
> to be set, but not by me and not by the drafters.
>
> -edrz
>
> (more to come in separate mails about transparancy and the actual
> substance of the draft(s))
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For the record. I am completely opposed to these changes and put forth
as an alternative the text of the original delegation from 2011. [1]

-Brian

P.S. - https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/03/msg00005.html

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