Re: Debconf in Israel
Jonathan,
It’s not just what their government is doing it’s what the citizens themselves by being on occupied land are doing. All of Israel is occupied land not once inch is fairly staked. By becoming a Israel citizen and living in Israel all Israelis take part in the oppression. In fact it’s settlers (Israeli citizens not government) that continue to expand and steal more land. At the end of the day not a single Israeli is innocent. An Israeli that wants to unsupportive is one who denounces their citizenship, turns their land and other appropriated gains over to Palestinians and leaves Israel. Palestinians deserve their land back and reparations for the genocide caused by citizens, military and police of Israel.
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:49 AM, Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> wrote: On 2019/03/21 19:36, Nasir El-Amin wrote:
> I haven’t once mentioned Jews. I’ve mentioned Israelis which are
> citizens of Israel. There are Jews worldwide especially of the Orthodox
> that 100% condemn the existence of Israel. This isn’t a Jew vs Muslim
> issue. This is a Israel vs Muslims issue and the fact that Israel exists
> through the theft of land, genocide, oppression and even blockading of
> the most basic of humanitarian supplies. Palestinians die everyday at
> the hand of Israel. You can’t tip toe around this issue and say there
> are Israelis that don’t support what’s happening that’s not true. Every
> Israeli supports the theft of land because they are by their presence on
> the stolen land complicit in the theft. Every Israeli is complicit in
> the genocide to because it’s not some fringe politics but it is the
> national political discourse of Israel to treat Palestinians the way
> they are treated.
Fair enough re: you not mentioning Jews, it's still unfair to clump all
Israeli people together as the same and assume they are all in support
of what their government is doing.
> You can defend Israel or you can be in the right side of history and
> stand with the Palestinians, United Nations, Human Rights Watch, BDS and
> countless organizations and human rights officials worldwide who condemn
> what’s happened and continues to happen in Israel.
>
> Israel doesn’t have any right to exist it’s a apartheid and stolen land.
> Perhaps Jonathan the reason you defend Israel is because you live in a
> former apartheid state that stole land from Black South Africans and
> treated Black South Africans similar although much nicer than Israelis
> treat Palestinians. You benefited from apartheid in your own country as
> a White South African who for decades benefited as Black South Africans
> suffered oppression.
You must have misread or misunderstood something, since I haven't said
anything in defense of Israel whatsoever.
-Jonathan
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