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Re: Language problem



* "[Admin at dDH]" <boyd2003@ddh.nl> [2004-10-13 16:50]:
> I've just tested this again with a default install of Mozilla 1.7.3 on 
> another PC. I does not ask again during the same session. But even 
> closing and restarting Mozilla brings back the problem.

 Then this is clearly a problem with mozilla. It shouldn't keep this
wish only for the session but for the lifetime. This is what JFS
suggested and I guess you misunderstood.

> Maybe you mean the 'remember this input for this server' (something like 
> that) option. But that only works for forms, where you need to fill in 
> something.

 No, he means the setting that isn't there yet. He meant just "like"
this setting, not exactly that setting.

>>You might have a point in that those links might only be really necessary 
>>in the (default) english webpages and others could just have a pointer to 
>>the english version instead of all languages.
> 
> Indeed, I hope you can reach consensus on that :)

 I strongly disagree. Not everyone is able to read/speak english, and
being forced to click through to the english page to find the language
you are looking for is both counter-intuitive and annoying.

> This would make it even more logical for webmasters to link to the home 
> page with their language, which then solves the problem (but does not 
> for the English home page).

 I even suggest you to *not* link to the language page, but let the
user's browser do its content negotiation. By linking to directly to the
language page you a.) force the user to read the page in that language,
and b.) force him to maybe follow to a broken link once the translation
for that page isn't maintained anymore and removed due to outdatedness.

 I don't think that it is a good idea to link to a language page, if
there is not a very very good reason for it...

> Maybe this is a solution:
> Any user will have some fonts missing (question marks in the text). This 
> is what I see: http://www.ddh.nl/debian-languages.gif
> So that's always a compromise.

 This is because you don't have the font installed. If your browser
can't display the font, it displays ? instead. If you look at the source
of the page you will see that in fact there is the real codes for that
language name.

> Why not use an image with all languages correctly spelled, linking to a 
> 'Choose your language' page?

 See my other mail.

> Or even a image map, with all languages linking to their own page, just 
> like how it works now?

 Even worse, image maps are even more a problem for disabled people.

> Bit of work, saves a lot of trouble :)

 Bit of usefullness for some, raises trouble for a lot :)

 So long,
Alfie
-- 
There are people who see things as they are and they wonder why, and
there are people who dream things as they have never been and they
wonder why not.
                                                             G. Shaw

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