On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 03:43:43PM -0200, Margarita Manterola wrote: > On Jan 12, 2008 5:04 AM, Melissa Draper <melissa@meldraweb.com> wrote: > > As part of my NY Resolutions, I decided it was time to get more involved > > in Debian, which involves hanging out in Debian channels more. Apart > > from rejoining the OFTC Debian channels, I also joined the Freenode ones > > since they are still the more populous. The channels I joined included > > #debian-offtopic - a 'secret' channel which they freely redirect > > offtopic conversation to if they are asked for an offtopic channel. > > Ok, so, after a small bit of research I found out something > interesting. It turns out that #ubuntu-offtopic on freenode is an > official community channel for Ubuntu. > > So, *newsflash*, not all similarly named channels are for the same > thing. The fact that there is a #debian-offtopic should NOT lead you > to believe that people on that channel are expected to behave as > people on #ubuntu-offtopic. > > Debian's official servers are at irc.oftc.net. Debian's community > channels are #debian and the localized #debian-fr, #debian-br, etc. > > If you are going to come with any complaints about irc channels, and > come claiming that _we_ are not doing enough, then please give some > grounds to your claims. Speaking about random channels on random > networks does NOT give grounds to your claim. While I see your point, the fact that the channel has "debian" in the name suggests that the channel has something to do with the Debian Project. If I set up a website at debian-offtopic.com and filled it with sexist jokes, Nazi propaganda, or anything of the sort, people would rightly be offended. While many/most people here may know that Freenode is not the official Debian IRC network, who's to say that a newcomer will realise that (after all, there's a #debian etc. there too)? While I realise that it's not possible to police every single network, Freenode is a very large and popular one, and I think Debian would be completely justified in preventing people using its name. The behaviour in the channel, from what I've heard, is not something that should be associated with Debian. -- Benjamin A'Lee :: benjamin.alee@subvert.org.uk Subvert Technologies :: http://subvert.org.uk/
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