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Re: Debian's Freenode IRC channels

On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 03:43:43PM -0200, Margarita Manterola wrote:
> On Jan 12, 2008 5:04 AM, Melissa Draper <melissa@meldraweb.com> wrote:
> > As part of my NY Resolutions, I decided it was time to get more involved
> > in Debian, which involves hanging out in Debian channels more. Apart
> > from rejoining the OFTC Debian channels, I also joined the Freenode ones
> > since they are still the more populous. The channels I joined included
> > #debian-offtopic - a 'secret' channel which they freely redirect
> > offtopic conversation to if they are asked for an offtopic channel.
> Ok, so, after a small bit of research I found out something
> interesting. It turns out that #ubuntu-offtopic on freenode is an
> official community channel for Ubuntu.
> So, *newsflash*, not all similarly named channels are for the same
> thing.  The fact that there is a #debian-offtopic should NOT lead you
> to believe that people on that channel are expected to behave as
> people on #ubuntu-offtopic.
> Debian's official servers are at irc.oftc.net.  Debian's community
> channels are #debian and the localized #debian-fr, #debian-br, etc.
> If you are going to come with any complaints about irc channels, and
> come claiming that _we_ are not doing enough, then please give some
> grounds to your claims. Speaking about random channels on random
> networks does NOT give grounds to your claim.

While I see your point, the fact that the channel has "debian" in the
name suggests that the channel has something to do with the Debian
Project. If I set up a website at debian-offtopic.com and filled it with
sexist jokes, Nazi propaganda, or anything of the sort, people would
rightly be offended.

While many/most people here may know that Freenode is not the official
Debian IRC network, who's to say that a newcomer will realise that
(after all, there's a #debian etc. there too)? While I realise that it's
not possible to police every single network, Freenode is a very large
and popular one, and I think Debian would be completely justified in
preventing people using its name. The behaviour in the channel, from
what I've heard, is not something that should be associated with Debian.

Benjamin A'Lee :: benjamin.alee@subvert.org.uk
Subvert Technologies :: http://subvert.org.uk/

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