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Re: Debian, lists and discrimination

On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 10:21:54PM +0100 or thereabouts, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 12:22:05PM +0100, Helen Faulkner wrote:
> > 
> > In my opinion no.  In my opinion, debian does discriminate against 
> > women, in ways that the debian-women project is trying to address.  See 
> > bug#263084 as an example of the kinds of positive action d-w people are 
> > involved in, and the way in which debian as a whole is happily helping 
> > with this stuff.
> #263084 is a joke, right? "Help, help, I'm being oppressed!"

It is not a joke. However, I hope I am to take the Monty Python
quote as a joke.

> I find it difficult to take this sort of thing seriously. It's like
> complaining about male and female connectors.

I do not believe that is the case. Style guides do not tell 
you to avoid references to male and female connectors. 

In a discussion about gender-neutral writing in January 2004,
I became curious and went through every style guide I have
in the house and a few more on the web, looking for best current 
practice. The results were interesting. Six of the seven flatly 
state that writing should be gender-neutral: the only discussion
is how best to achieve this. 

(I didn't actually have access to the seventh and had to 
rely on a review which mentioned it in passing, so I am
not sure whether to count it.)

Since I do not want to type all of the quotes in again, you 
can read it at:



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