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Re: GR proposal: code of conduct



On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 08:07:36PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 06:54:51PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 01:34:31PM +0000, Neil McGovern wrote:
> > > Formally accepted :)
> > 
> > So I inserted that after 2, and it now reads:
> > <ol>
> > <li>The Debian project decides to accept a code of conduct for
> >    participants to its mailinglists, IRC channels, and other modes of
> >    communication within the project.
> > 
> > <li>The initial text of this code of conduct replaces the "mailinglist
> >    code of conduct" at http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct
> > 
> > <li>Updates to this code of conduct should follow the normal GR
> >    procedure. However, the DPL (or the DPL's delegates) can add or
> >    remove links to other documents in the "Further reading" section
> >    after consultation with the project and without requiring a GR.
> > 
> > <li>The initial text of the code of conduct follows, in markdown format.
> > </ol>
> > 
> > Can you confirm that that was your intention?
> 
> Not what I meant, but I'll grant you there's some room for confusion
> here.
> 
> I have accepted Neil's original proposal to drop the second item in the
> above, and make it an extra entry in the "further reading" section.
> Under A.1.2, that means my original proposal and Neil's amendment A
> should now be considered one and the same thing, both using Neil's text
> (unless any of the seconders of my original proposal were to object,
> which so far nobody has done and which would surprise me, given the
> seconders of the original proposal and of Neil's first amendment are
> largely the same people)

I've already changed your proposal to his amendement A, changing
from 3 to 2 proposals.  And I think you just said the same thing
here.

But this was about you saying:
> 3. Updates to this code of conduct should follow the normal GR
>    procedure. However, the DPL or the DPL's delegates can add or
>    remove links to other documents in the "Further reading" section
>    after consultation with the project and without requiring a GR.

I understood that this was about his original amendement B, since
that is that one requiring a GR, and it was your text was below
his quoted version of that, and Neil accepted that.

> I interpret all that as meaning Neil's second amendment must now be
> based upon his first amendment (which, indeed, his proposal as sent was
> not). It would therefore read:

His first amendement doesn't exist anymore, since that's now your
proposal.  I guess that why he asked on how to do this and I
misunderstood.

> 
> <ol>
> <li>The Debian project decides to accept a code of conduct for
>    participants to its mailinglists, IRC channels, and other modes of
>    communication within the project.
> 
> <li>Updates to this code of conduct should follow the normal GR
>    procedure. However, the DPL (or the DPL's delegates) can add or
>    remove links to other documents in the "Further reading" section
>    after consultation with the project and without requiring a GR.
> 
> <li>The initial text of the code of conduct follows, in markdown format.
> </ol>
> 
> i.e., dropping item 2 (and adding the text of his amendment A to the
> "further reading" section).


The first one is now:
====
<ol>
<li>The Debian project decides to accept a code of conduct for
   participants to its mailinglists, IRC channels, and other modes of
   communication within the project.

<li>Updates to this code of conduct should be made by the DPL or the
   DPL's delegates after consultation with the project, or by the Debian
   Developers as a whole through the general resolution procedure.

<li>The initial text of the code of conduct follows, in markdown format.
</ol>

It adds the following text at the end of the initial text:
<pre>
- The [Mailing list code of
  conduct](http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct) is useful for
  advice specific to Debian mailing lists
</pre>
===

And I understand that your understanding is that the second one should be:
===
<ol>
<li>The Debian project decides to accept a code of conduct for
   participants to its mailinglists, IRC channels, and other modes of
   communication within the project.

<li>Updates to this code of conduct should follow the normal GR
   procedure. However, the DPL (or the DPL's delegates) can add or
   remove links to other documents in the "Further reading" section
   after consultation with the project and without requiring a GR.

<li>The initial text of the code of conduct follows, in markdown format.
</ol>

It adds the following text at the end of the initial text:
<pre>
- The [Mailing list code of
  conduct](http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct) is useful for
  advice specific to Debian mailing lists
</pre>
===

In which case I should just add the link to the mailling list CoC initial text
since all options now have that.


Kurt


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