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Re: planet.debian.org is RC buggy (?)

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Frank Lin PIAT <fpiat@klabs.be> wrote:

> planet.d.o has became one of the most visible media for Debian, if not
> the most visible one. Do you think it is a good thing?

As has been already said, I'm not sure it's the most visible media.
If it is, it's probably because we are failing to communicate properly
by other means, and we should work on improving other areas of
communication, not on stopping planet.

> DFSG / rc-buggy
> ¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨
> I consider blogs as non-free, proprietary material (a very few have a
> proper license, the "distribution" media s*cks anyway).
> Breaks DFSG #1: A document (HowTo...) published on planet can't be
> distributed in Debian main. Is this a problem?
> Breaks DFSG #3: Derived work aren't allowed. In the few case where it is
> legally possible, it is difficult to merge and publish the updated
> version. Is this a problem?
> Breaks DFSG #2: No source for stuffs like charts and graphs (HTML is a
> valid source here). Is this a problem?

As has been already pointed out (sorry I got late to the thread),
mailing lists suffer from the same issue.  Blogs and mailing lists are
just two different forms of communications, and I don't think that
either of them should be stopped because the authors retain their

> Opacity
> ¨¨¨¨¨¨¨
> Replying to a blog entry is very difficult. The replies and the original
> posted aren't available side-by-side. The comments aren't available on
> Debian planet (a kind of censorship). Actually, some blog even forbid
> comments! Is this a problem?

No, it's not a problem.  People can do whatever they want with their
blogs.  If they don't want comments, they'll receive feedback some
other way, or they won't, but that's not censorship.

> The content isn't archived. Is this a problem? a feature?

All important content should be also posted somewhere else.  Either a
mailing list, a wiki page, a documentation file inside a package, or
whatever is appropriate.  Unimportant information doesn't need to get

> Community
> ¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨
> Do you think Debian Planet reflects the fact that Debian is a community
> where people collaborate? Do you think planet encourage collaboration?

A little bit.  The main point of having a planet is being able to
quickly "see" what the other developers are up to, be it personal or
project related.  When it's project related, sometimes it helps by
getting more people involved or spreading some news. However, this is
only a side effect, not the core of the planet.

> Do you think Debian Planet reflects the fact that Debian encourages to
> constitute teams? Do you think planet encourage that?

I don't, but I don't think it's relevant to what planet is for.

> Do you see a shift in recognizing people for their communication skill
> (and/or committed time to communicate), rather that their actual work?


> What would you suggest and/or do?

Nothing regarding planet.  I *DO* want to improve on communication.
Giving more visibility both to the DeveloperNews and to the
news.debian.net sites, and having more information available to users.


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