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Re: Call for seconds: DFSG violations in Lenny



On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:55:56AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 27 2008, Robert Millan wrote:
> 
> 
> > Option 2 (allow Lenny to release with propietary firmware)
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >    1. We affirm that our Priorities are our users and the free software
> >       community (Social Contract #4);
> >
> >    2. We acknowledge that there is a lot of progress in the kernel firmware
> >       issue; however, it is not yet finally sorted out;
> >
> >    3. We assure the community that there will be no regressions in the progress
> >       made for freedom in the kernel distributed by Debian relative to the Etch
> >       release in Lenny
> >
> >    4. We give priority to the timely release of Lenny over sorting every bit
> >       out; for this reason, we will treat removal of sourceless firmware as a
> >       best-effort process, and deliver firmware in udebs as long as it is
> >       necessary for installation (like all udebs), and firmware included in
> >       the kernel itself as part of Debian Lenny, as long as we are legally
> >       allowed to do so, and the firmware is distributed upstream under a
> >       license that complies with the DFSG.
> >
> > (Since this option overrides the SC, I believe it would require 3:1 majority)
> 
>         While I have seconded this proposal, how about a change in
>  wording:
> 
> ,----
> |  1. We affirm that our Priorities are our users and the free software
> |     community (Social Contract #4);
> | 
> |  2. We acknowledge that there is a lot of progress in the kernel firmware
> |     issue; most of the issues that were outstanding at the time of the
> |     last stable release have been sorted out. However, new issues in the
> |     kernel sources have cropped up fairly recently, and these new issues
> |     have not yet been addressed.
> | 
> |  3. We assure the community that there will be no regressions in the
> |     progress made for freedom in the kernel distributed by Debian
> |     relative to the Etch release in Lenny
> | 
> |  4. We give priority  to the timely release of  Lenny over sorting every
> |     bit  out; for  this  reason,  we will  treat  removal of  sourceless
> |     firmware as a best-effort process,  and deliver firmware in udebs as
> |     long  as it  is necessary  for  installation (like  all udebs),  and
> |     firmware included in  the kernel itself as part  of Debian Lenny, as
> |     long  as we  are  legally allowed  to  do so,  and  the firmware  is
> |     distributed upstream under a license that complies with the DFSG.
> `----
> 
>         The changes are just to item 2., which is expanded to explain a
>  little more about the progress we actually made in the kernel, and also
>  to explain these are new issues (not something we have been ignoring
>  for years).
> 
>         I would like to propose this as a formal amendment to the
>  proposal, and hope it would be acceptable to the proposer.

I accept and second it.

-- 
Robert Millan

  The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and
  how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we
  still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."

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