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Re: The Debian Maintainers GR

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > This isn't prohibited or prevented by the current proposal. Moreover, it
> > explicitly lists the FD and DAM members as people who can implement what
> > you are proposing here.
> So propose something that implements it, rather than implementing
> something different and then saying we can change it later.  It's always
> easier to change things before they start.

This is not true in general in the free software world, and the GR process
is even less suited to create a better proposal by having severals rounds
of discussion (due to the delays it induces).

Don't let the perfect be the ennemy of the good.

> I can see voting for something that says "we empower the DAM and FD to
> create a new class of Debian Developers who don't have general upload
> rights, and leave all the details to them."

If all those people were happily working towards that goal we wouldn't even
have this discussion here. May I remind you that we're all volunteers and
if you come up with such a GR, most likely none of those people will
feel concerned about implementing it?

You need to have buy-in from ftpmasters too and here we have at least one
ftpmaster ready to work on the required infrastructure. Say him "no" and
you'll have trouble finding another ftpmaster to do something similar.

Really, this GR (despite the appearance due to the initial policy being
worded in the GR) is not about implementation details but about a general
direction that we want to have or not.

> detailed proposal that's different than this one.  But I'm not going to
> vote for a detailed proposal that differs from what I want to see plus a
> "trust us, we'll fix it all by changing all those policies" statement.

Why do you trust DAM/FD to do the right thing more than the people listed
in the current GR ?

Raphaël Hertzog

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