Canonical list of proposal text
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:15:28 -0400, Branden Robinson <email@example.com> said:
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 09:54:17AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
>> > Umh, then I need to ask why the resolution is not clear enough so
>> > that it does not need the preamble to know in which way the
>> > author has intended its interpretation? As Manoj pointed out
>> > already, courts look at the resolution when *interpreting* it,
>> > not at the preamble, so it seems pretty useles in that regard.
>> As for german law, this is definitely wrong. Courts primarily look
>> at the text, but the public documents produced in parliament during
>> the creation process do in fact count when in doubt.
> Manoj is simply incorrect about this.
Fair enough. I am now proclaiming the separation of the vote
pages on vote.debian.org and the the proposals we shall vote on in
This has to be the case, since the vote.d.o pages are under
control by me, or anyone with the power to commit to webwml; but
these are not the people who can determine what the actuall current
words of the proposal are. Since I can't exercise judgement and
determine what the wording of the proposal might be, I can't promise
that the vote.d.o pages would have the correct phraseology. That
depends on the proposers and sponsors, over whom I have no control.
Could I ask the proposers to submit formated renditions of the
proposal for inclusion on the web page? Eeew, what abuse of
power. There is nothing in the constitution that allows the secretary
to impose such additional obstacles to getting a GR through.
Since the constitution decrees that all the proposals and
related material be posted on the vote.debian.org mailing list (well,
that is the designated mailing list), which is puiblicly archived,
the best we can do is point people to the archive. Since a proposal
may have developed over several emails, it is not feasible to point
out the actual emails on the ballot (nor does the constitution so
require), so the ballot may contain a pointer to which month of the
archive people need to look at -- unless that too is deemed
This way, there us no way the secretary can exercise undue
influence and in any way censor the glorious wording proposed and
Never tamper with the truth. Never rationalize it. What you might
like to believe is not necessarily the truth.
Manoj Srivastava <firstname.lastname@example.org> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/>
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