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Re: DFSG#10

On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 12:52:46PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 12:56:06PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 05:19:40PM +0200, Tore Anderson wrote:
> > >   For Debian to be "100% Free Software", it first must be "100% Software",
> > >  right?
> > 
> > wrong.
> > 
> > it means that the SOFTWARE in debian is ALL (i.e. 100%) free software as
> > defined by the DFSG.  it says nothing about the non-software in debian.
> Right...
>   The Social Contract does not say: Debian Will Remain 100% Free
>   Software and Some Other Things That Aren't Software But Which Are Also
>   Free But Meet a Different Definition Of Free Than That Which Applies
>   to Software, Plus Some Other Stuff That Isn't Free By Any Stretch Of
>   The Imagination But Which We Thought Would Be Nice To Have.[1]

you seem to have trouble reading, so you make up stuff that was never said.

   "it says nothing about the non-software in debian."

to help you understand that statement, here's what the dictionary has to 
say about "nothing".

$ dict nothing
5 definitions found

>From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]:

  Nothing \Noth"ing\, n. [From no, a. + thing.]
     1. Not anything; no thing (in the widest sense of the word
        thing); -- opposed to {anything} and {something}.
        [1913 Webster]
              Yet had his aspect nothing of severe. --Dryden.
        [1913 Webster]
     2. Nonexistence; nonentity; absence of being; nihility;
        nothingness. --Shak.
        [1913 Webster]
     3. A thing of no account, value, or note; something
        irrelevant and impertinent; something of comparative
        unimportance; utter insignificance; a trifle.
        [1913 Webster]
              Behold, ye are of nothing, and your work of nought.
                                                    --Is. xli. 24.
        [1913 Webster]
              'T is nothing, says the fool; but, says the friend,
              This nothing, sir, will bring you to your end.
        [1913 Webster]
     4. (Arith.) A cipher; naught.
        [1913 Webster]
     {Nothing but}, only; no more than. --Chaucer.
     {To make nothing of}.
        (a) To make no difficulty of; to consider as trifling or
            important. "We are industrious to preserve our bodies
            from slavery, but we make nothing of suffering our
            souls to be slaves to our lusts." --Ray.
        (b) Not to understand; as, I could make nothing of what he
            [1913 Webster]

>From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]:

  Nothing \Noth"ing\, adv.
     In no degree; not at all; in no wise.
     [1913 Webster]
           Adam, with such counsel nothing swayed.  --Milton.
     [1913 Webster]
           The influence of reason in producing our passions is
           nothing near so extensive as is commonly believed.
     [1913 Webster]
     {Nothing off} (Naut.), an order to the steersman to keep the
        vessel close to the wind.
        [1913 Webster]

>From WordNet (r) 2.0 (August 2003) [wn]:

      n 1: a quantity of no importance; "it looked like nothing I had
           ever seen before"; "reduced to nil all the work we had
           done"; "we racked up a pathetic goose egg"; "it was all
           for naught"; "I didn't hear zilch about it" [syn: {nil},
            {nix}, {nada}, {null}, {aught}, {cipher}, {cypher},
           {goose egg}, {naught}, {zero}, {zilch}, {zip}]
      2: a nonexistent thing [syn: {nonentity}]
      adv : in no way; to no degree; "he looks nothing like his father"

>From English-Latin Freedict dictionary [fd-eng-lat]:

  nothing [nʌθiŋ]

>From Moby Thesaurus II by Grady Ward, 1.0 [moby-thesaurus]:

  86 Moby Thesaurus words for "nothing":
     a little thing, a nobody, a nothing, aught, bagatelle, blank,
     cipher, clean slate, common man, dud, dummy, empty space,
     figurehead, good-for-nothing, goose egg, hardly anything,
     hollow man, inanity, inessential, insignificancy, jackstraw,
     lay figure, lightweight, little fellow, little guy, man of straw,
     marginal matter, matter of indifference, mediocrity, mere nothing,
     minor matter, nada, naught, nebbish, nichts, nihil, nihility, nil,
     nix, no great matter, no such thing, no-account, no-good, nobody,
     nobody one knows, nonentity, nothing at all, nothing in particular,
     nothing on earth, nothing to signify, nothing whatever,
     nothingness, nought, nullity, obscurity, ought, paltry affair,
     peanuts, peu de chose, pip-squeak, punk, puppet, pushover,
     rien du tout, runt, scarcely anything, scrub, shrimp, small fry,
     small potato, small potatoes, squirt, squit, tabula rasa,
     technicality, thing of naught, trifle, unworthy, vacuum, valueless,
     void, whiffet, whippersnapper, wind, zero, zilch


craig sanders <cas@taz.net.au>

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