On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 02:57:02PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > > > That's where we address things like "what's the point"? > On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 01:35:34PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > > However, the discussion period is intended to be finite, it's not > > supposed to be used as a filibuster. > I never suggested that it was. > And, in fact, it's the Secretary who gets to say when the > discussion period is over, precisely because it might > involve a judgment call. > > If his answer to "what's the point?" is nothing more involved than > > "because I want it to be known where the developership stands on the > > question I proposed", and he gets the requisite seconds, isn't it > > better to call the vote rather than discussing interminably? > Who cares? Why do you ask? How does this question have > any relevance? Because I see the same arguments as always being trotted out and filling my mailbox; and I'm loathe to unsubscribe from debian-vote, but don't see that most of these discussions really do anything to advance understanding of the proposal actually on the table. If this proposal really doesn't compel us to *do* anything and amounts only to a referendum on the question, it gives us insight into the views of the developership and tells us whether more debate is really needed (and from which side). > > Particularly when voting on a resolution which appears to be toothless > > by design? > NO! > That's the really bad part of Andrew's proposal. > While our voting system is fairly resilient to insincere voting, no > voting system can be completely immune -- for example, consider what > happens when a majority of the votes are insincere. And, if the ballot > options themselves are insincere, that encourages insincere voting. Sorry, "insincere ballot options" doesn't parse. Insincere voting refers to the process of strategically ranking options on a ballot in a way that does not correspond to the voter's true preference. You must be using the word "insincere" to mean something completely different here. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer
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