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Re: The "Free" vs. "Non-Free" issue



On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 11:42:02AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote:
> > > Because you have no problem you're trying to solve, you do not [can't]
> > > recognize other proposals to solve the same problem.
> 
> On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 04:25:11PM +0000, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > You haven't made any proposals. You asked for other people to make
> > some. Nobody did.
> 
> I have not made any proposals which need to be voted on.
> 
> I have made proposals [in the context of examples of how I might tackle
> specific problems].
> 
> > If you actually have a proposal to make, the process for making it is
> > well documented.
> 
> You seem to be thinking that the useful thing we're trying to do here
> is vote on something.

Can I ask what useful things you do for the Project, apart from serving
exclusively on the Technical Committee of all Debian's infrastructural
teams[1], and which has apparently demanded nothing of you for at least
6 months[2] (and to which your last public contribution was in November
of 2002[3], maintain four small packages[4] -- of which none has been
uploaded by you in over a year[5], despite the fact that you have
NMU-fixed bugs you need to acknowledge[6]?

In other words, I am trying to determine the labors upon which you
legitimize your self-appointed role as a moral voice for the Project
while still being too busy to put forth the sort of concrete proposals
you criticize others for not producing.

Frankly, I'm stumped as to how you have time to contribute to mailing
list discussions, usually to strenously advocate *not* doing something
(like clear a GR that has been stalled for over 3 years[7], as the
non-free section discussions of the past 2 months have endeavored to
do), and not to contribute to the Debian Project in other ways.  Perhaps
I am merely ignorant; please take this opportunity to trumpet your
accomplishments -- I promise I won't regard you as immodest for doing
so, just this once.

[1] http://www.debian.org/intro/organization
[2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/
    (longer than that, really, but I'll regard Wichert's ping of the
    list in the most chartiable possible light)
[3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2002/debian-ctte-200211/threads.html
[4] http://www.debian.org/devel/people
[5] I searched my own archives of debian-devel-changes, but the
    Project's archives are available for independent inspection at
    http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-changes/
[6] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?maint=moth@debian.org
[7] http://www.debian.org/vote/2000/vote_0008

-- 
G. Branden Robinson                |      "To be is to do"   -- Plato
Debian GNU/Linux                   |      "To do is to be"   -- Aristotle
branden@debian.org                 |      "Do be do be do"   -- Sinatra
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