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Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying

On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 05:00:41PM -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
> the proposal brings the Quorum voting method back to the Condorcet
> standard, 

For reference, "back to the Condorcet standard" is not what we
want here. The default option allows allows us to combine condorcet
preferential voting, with an approval-vote style calculation of majorities
or acceptability.

> while ensuring that a few developers (less that R) cannot make
> any ``stealth decisions''.

Likewise, the quorum requirement is made on a per-option basis
specifically to ensure that there's no bias in the system -- that is,
there's no incentive not to vote for an option you like, because that
would in any way make it more likely for an option you dislike to win.

For reference, my only quibbles with the draft are in the wording of:

	A.6(3) - "non-default" should probably be dropped from the brackets for
	A.6(5) - transitive defeats doesn't make reference to the list
	         of pairwise defeats
	A.6(5) - "[undropped]" is undefined, and the meaning of the
	         square brackets is also unclear
	A.6(6) - "defeats within the Schwartz set" isn't limited to
		 undropped defeats
	A.6    - the RATIONALE isn't particularly clear in its intent.
		 it could probably be rephrased either as "ADVICE TO
		 VOTERS" or "If you vote <in this way> <this is what
		 the outcome will be>."

See also my mail <20030423063600.GB6141@azure.humbug.org.au> (Subject:
Re: April 23rd Draft; Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 16:36:00 +1000) and Manoj's
comments in response.


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