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Re: latest testing update broke my laptop



On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 09:39:40AM +0000, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 18:52:24 +1100
> David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello David,
> 
> >Hi, I don't know myself what is correct, but I see these related
> >statements on the Debian wiki [1]:
> 
> I know the best wisdom suggests an install of stable, then upgrade, but
> that does (or rather *should*) mean that one checks everything works in
> the base install _before_ proceeding to the upgrade.  It may make no
> difference in the case of breakage, but you never know.
> 

I would suggest that what's actually needed is a bare install of stable -
so Bullseye / Debian 11 here and build essential to build Nvidia modules
or whatever else.

I'd start from the firmware .iso and an expert text modeinstall and then uncheck
everything other than standard - so no graphics environment AT ALL - before
rebooting. (You might want to add network manager or similar for nmtui to
configure WiFi).

Text mode _should_ just work for any value of chipset: in this instance,
you'd have AMD firmware installed by the installer.

Add build essential. Build Nvidia drivers / optimus or whatever.

Only at that point use tasksel as root/root equivalent to install a graphical
environment.

[Sequence worked out on a previous gaming laptop that needed bumblebee and
would lock up randomly under nouveau. I no longer have easy access to this
class of hardware - it took me about three days of working to get to this :) ]

If you discover that you actually need testing/a backport to get stuff to work,
stop at the point before adding build-essential and upgrade at that point
so that you are updating an absolute bare minimum.

Testing .isos are fine: at this point, when freeze is starting in under a month
testing will become more and more valid to install - but the current testing
.iso is still an alpha RC (and yes, I know, we'll get more current
images released in the course of the freeze but now is not necessarily good).

There's also the fact that Bookworm images should be ready to include firmware
- the modifications to the archive and elsewhere still need are ongoing and
this is a work in progress.
> As always in cases like this;  YMMV.
> 
> (trying an edited re-send, as I got a bounce back for potential spam
> post)
> 

Absolutely agree that YMMV. All advice here is only given as best endeavours
and in the light of own experience. 

All the very best, as ever,

Andy Cater
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