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Re: Unexplained freezes and crashes, nothing in /var/log/messages



On Thu 03 Jun 2021 at 18:34:41 (+0100), Tixy wrote:
> On Thu, 2021-06-03 at 12:19 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> > On 2021-06-03 11:27 a.m., Marc Auslander wrote:
> > > On 6/3/2021 10:20 AM, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> > > > On 03/06/2021 09:09, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> > > > I check the temperature regularly with sensors and it's usually
> > > > between 42 and 52 C.
> > > > 
> > > > Problem is I can't check the temperature while it's freezing.
> > > > 
> > > > You might run a background job that keeps writing the sensors to a file,
> > > say every 5 minutes, although a really don't know how quickly the
> > > temperature can change.

My own monitoring program logs the temperature (and battery)
every six seconds.

> > > That said, this sounds like a long shot to me.
> > > 
> > Temperature doesn't change in a matter of one or two minutes, unless you
> > have a real heat dissipation problem and you'll see in this case the
> > changes from the time you power it on the temperature will rise fast.
> 
> Only if workload stays the same and the system has reached equilibrium.
> Temperature can change in a matter of seconds if workload suddenly
> changes.
> 
> $ cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone2/type
> x86_pkg_temp
> $ cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone2/temp
> 47000
> $ while : ; do : ; done &
> [1] 4739
> $ cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone2/temp
> 63000
> $ kill 4739
> $ cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone2/temp
> 49000
> 
> That's 15C change in about second on this laptop. My desktop will go
> from drawing 17W from the mains when idle, to 160W when maxing out all
> 8 CPUs and temperature will jump about from 40C to 95C in a few
> seconds. 

I haven't managed that rate of rise on a laptop with two cores,
but it could certainly cook your thighs. The attached shows a profile
when I was running the browser on a weather radar site much of the
day. I don't recall whether the machine was switched off from 16:22
to 16:30, or just not running X, but it was certainly switched off
between 16:53 and 17:18 as I was fetching my wife from work through
flooded streets. (The day reached 29°C whereupon over 4 inches of
rain fell.)

Cheers,
David.

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