Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]
On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 23:29:15 (+0000), Brian wrote:
> On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 16:19:45 -0500, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 02:55:08 PM Brian wrote:
> > > On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 08:13:13 -0500, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:03:31 PM Celejar wrote:
> > > > > "Many wireless network cards (and even some wired ones) require
> > > > > non-free firmware to function properly. This firmware is not included
> > > > > in the standard installation images, due to Debian's free software
> > > > > ideals. If the network hardware your installation will rely upon
> > > > > requires such firmware, you may consider using the alternate non-free
> > > > > installation images available here."
> > > >
> > > > +1
> > >
> > > "+1" for what? Advertising each and every non-Debian installer that
> > > comes along and is uploaded to unofficial?
I was under the impression that "The Debian Images Team is a small
team of people working on creating, testing and distributing Debian
images for [us]", whereas you seem to be describing something like
a wiki where any Tom, Dick or Harry dumps their cobbled together
installer.
> > No. Providing a reasonable explanatory text about why some other installer
> > may be required and a link to a place where you can find one or more.
>
> My installer is aimed at users with an adapter that uses the p54usb
> driver. It requires firmware that needs to be extracted from the device
> and there aren't any such files in the non-free archive. I imagine there
> are other similar devices.
>
> I can easlily provide explanatory text about why my installer is needed
> and why it would benefit users. Would it be ok to have it in unofficial
> as a non-Debian installer?
Extracting firmware from the device itself is something I've never had
to do, and wouldn't know where to get started. That might be the sort
of process to describe in the Firmware wiki, under "Location of
firmware files".
Having extracted it, the "naive" user might then follow the
instructions in the Installation Guide, of course, and then wonder
why the d-i wouldn't find and load it.
Cheers,
David.
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