On 2020-07-31 at 10:58, Reco wrote: > On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 08:47:50AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2020-07-31 at 08:37, Reco wrote: >> > It's a kmail thing. mutt, being a superior MUA, is not affected. >> >> Can you clarify both A: in what way this is kmail-specific, > > kmail apparently mistakes '-- t' for the MIME-separator. > > The "offending" e-mail actually look like this: > > == cut == > > -- t > > --gKMricLos+KVdGMg > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" > Content-Description: Digital signature > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > == cut == > > Where "-- t" is a signature and is contained inside of a MIME-part, and > "--gKMricLos+KVdGMg" is an actual RFC2045-compilant separator. > > >> and B: what behaviors you're seeing in respect to mutt that are >> relevant here? > > The lack of aforementioned confusion. The signature shows as the > author intended, gpg validation happens as expected. That does indeed look like a kmail bug, as you say. But it's not what I understand the problem being discussed to be. >> I see failure on my end, with Thunderbird, which is similar to what >> I understand the problem being complained about to be. It is my >> understanding that the problem is rooted in (lack of) compliance >> with a particular RFC, such that the resulting behavior will be >> basically universal across all compliant mail clients. > > RFC2045 is a standard, but we all know that certain proprietary MUA > which deliberately violates almost all standards if it comes to > e-mail. Apparently both KDE and Mozilla consider more important to be > compatible with this certain MUA than to follow actual standards > closely. As indicated in another mail, I consider the relevant RFC to be RFC3676, specifically section 4.3. RFC2045 had not entered my scope here, never mind the proprietary MUA you're probably referring to (which, for all I know, may not actually respect RFC3676 either - I should probably test that, actually, next time I have some downtime while on-shift). The original objector has also said that GPG/PGP has nothing to do with his objection, so I suspect that this kmail bug is an unrelated side issue. For what it may be worth, in defense of Mozilla and the people who inherited Thunderbird from them, Tomas' mails validate fine in Thunderbird for me. -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw
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