* On 2020 12 Apr 10:06 -0500, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 12 apr 20, 16:23:52, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 07:57:22AM -0600, Keith Christian wrote: > > On the other hand there are the silos, which like to have more end > > user control, which you can't have as much if everyone gets to > > see their content the way they like. > > I seriously doubt developers care about that. As far as I can tell most > of them are trying to provide just enough[2] customization options > without overwhelming less technical users. I've been hearing/reading this old saw about "less technical users" for well over two decades, and not just in Linux land but amateur radio as well, and it really touches a nerve of mine. How are less technical users ever going to progress into more technical users unless they have the opportunity to break something and thus learn? Striving to make *everything* at beginner level 0.1 just retards growth. That said, I do use Gnome. ;-) > As far as I can tell for Debian the main drivers are: > > 1. The hope that software like Discourse can improve the quality of > discussion as well as signal-to-noise ration, e.g. by providing an > alternative to "+1" messages. As the message archive is centrally managed, moderators can remove messages behind the scenes, for good or for ill. On a mailing list we all get the good with the bad. It's up to us which is which. Yeah it's messy and doesn't provide much of a safe space. Viva la liberty! > 2. Providing communication options that are preferred by the younger > generation, and that's just the natural course of life. More than likely this is driven by mobile device users where typing is a pain at best and typing long missives is better left for when one is at a real computer. As I use neomutt as an MUA and make heavy use of procmail filtering, trying to access my mail via my phone simply isn't feasible. Unlike most I do not have a Gmail account to access from my phone, etc. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us Projects: https://github.com/N0NB GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819
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